Monk Macros with Proper Rotation!

[TheRealMadruck]

Please show your parses since you claim you can be competitive with macros also you aren't 60.

First, you truly must think that I am a newb to expect me to admit to using a parser(which I don't)...so good job on the attempted trolling on trying to get me banned! Second, what makes you think this is my only account?

[Kitfox]

First, you truly must think that I am a newb to expect me to admit to using a parser(which I don't)...so good job on the attempted trolling on trying to get me banned! Second, what makes you think this is my only account?

That's the critique you decide to reply to?

Everything about your video points towards you being a newbie, and that's fine. But you're wrong about macros and them being competitive in the manner you're using them. You would see why if you had the actual numbers you're pulling and compared them to someone playing properly, hence the usual cry for proof. Then again, you might have an entirely different concept of being "competitive" so what do I know.

[TheRealMadruck]

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Kitfox, I didnt post on here or Youtube to get into a internet argument with several people. If you watch my entire video with me doing my full rotation in the correct order the macros work correctly minus mitigating circumstances. It honestly does not matter to me if others think that I am a newb, posters on here do not have a clear understanding of my background playing FF14. My information is valid and my Macros do work, as I have stated in my edited comment from the beginning of this post.....if anyone would like to discredit my information contrary to what I have said, I would welcome anyone to post a detailed video of them using my macro, showing they added in the correct portions to it, proving to me and everyone that it truly is wrong. When you ask me to provide proof, I already have during my entire video. If you or anyone would like to show me to be wrong, do so with actual facts and video evidence that the entire FF14 Community can see and judge for themselves. Anything other than that is pure speculation or opinion without any form of proof to discredit my information!

[Taika]

When you ask me to provide proof, I already have during my entire video. If you or anyone would like to show me to be wrong, do so with actual facts and video evidence that the entire FF14 Community can see and judge for themselves. Anything other than that is pure speculation or opinion without any form of proof to discredit my information!

You're not posting any actual proof, though. You're only showing yourself doing a rotation, not anything about how effective your rotation and your way of playing is.

[TheRealMadruck]

You're not posting any actual proof, though. You're only showing yourself doing a rotation, not anything about how effective your rotation and your way of playing is.

Did you even watch my video? I did a complete demonstration my rotation on the very end of my video: https://youtu.be/w1OaUR0ZAg4?t=543 What are you talking about?

[Radacci]

Did you even watch my video? I did a complete demonstration my rotation on the very end of my video: https://youtu.be/w1OaUR0ZAg4?t=543 What are you talking about?

i watched it, and there's lots of downtime,where you're not using GCD skills, when you can, so through that demonstration you lost at least 1 GCD. over the course of a 10min fight, you'd loose like 30 GCDs, which means you weren't DPSing for 1min.
That's more than 100'000 damage you didn't do, because macro. You'd have to pull out a lv3 LB from thin air, to compensate.
so....stop fooling yourself
Macros used to be ok, but then they made it so fractional seconds...DON'T work, which is what ruined macros.
Also macros completely disregard your SS....which is the point of Greased Lightning; macroing monk, is nerfing the monk.

also the fact that you disabled comments, just shows you're only interested in your own opinion, and unable to take in ideas from other ppl.

[vp_cmc]

If you or anyone would like to show me to be wrong, do so with actual facts and video evidence

Sure. Not my video (and very old, but macro still works the same), but here it is: https://youtu.be/czzLF4IfFaM

[TheRealMadruck]

Sure. Not my video (and very old, but macro still works the same), but here it is: https://youtu.be/czzLF4IfFaM

What!?!? I just watched that entire video and its a comparison of him using his Sphairai Animus(http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/47e66a1e96a/) vs Glanzfaust(http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/c070572d9fc/) showing nothing more than the dps difference between both of them and not one thing said or mentioned on Macros......What are you talking about?

[alsims2007]

What!?!? I just watched that entire video and its a comparison of him using his Sphairai Animus(http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/47e66a1e96a/) vs Glanzfaust(http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/c070572d9fc/) showing nothing more than the dps difference between both of them and not one thing said or mentioned on Macros......What are you talking about?

Skip ahead to 4:10 im the video. Also check your duplicate post in the dps section for my thoughts on the macros

[Kitfox]

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I'm not discrediting you because you might not be lvl60, nor do I want to get into an "internet fight." I'm simply stating your understanding of macros and rotational effectiveness is lacking. Look, veterans don't give you flak just to bully you, they do it because you're wrong about competitiveness and effectiveness of macros. This subject comes up every so often among new players who get overwhelmed by the number of abilities, which is why people are so quick to dismiss your video.

I watched your entire video before I commented though, I've also read your edited comment. When I talk about fractional timing on macros and abilities queuing, I don't mean what you call a "cast sequence" macro. I mean ability queueing. What that means is you can click on a GCD ability before your GCD is ready, and it will queue the ability and it goes off when your GCD is ready. You can try this yourself. Now try the same with a macro. It will not work.

What happens is that it will not trigger until your GCD has fully passed, it does not queue. Because it does not queue, you can only use your macro as fast as you can click it after your GCD is done. That means you lose whatever reaction time or clicking speed amount of time you have, everytime you use your macro. This is the non-queueing fractional loss.

Fractional loss is something you can actually work with if you really like spamming your macro buttons. Depending on your button mashing frequency, it might not actually be more than ~5% dps loss, but it will be a loss. Your greatest loss comes from triggering random buffs when you should be triggering a GCD. Every buff has a roughly 0.5-1 second animation time. If you trigger a buff instead of a GCD, you cut that much more into your GCD, which is a major loss. If you only have one single buff/oGCD in your macro and you keep spamming it so that it triggers between the GCDs, your dps loss will be minimized, but that also kind of defeats the purpose of your macro. When you have multiple oGCD abilities in the macro and they are all ready, you'll be clipping and triggering them without control and clipping into your GCDs, losing much more DPS than the fractional loss from the lack of macro queueing. You simply do not have enough control over your oGCDs if you use them in macros like this.

If you really wanted to, you could make a seperate macro for stacking all buffs, so that you only need to mash one button for all your oGCDs, that way you at least have the control when to pop them and how many. You should not, however, pair buffs and GCDs in the same macro for the reasons stated. Even a stacked buff macro is bad, because you have no control over the individual buffs and abilities, but it's really the only acceptable way to macro some of your abilities.

Video format is not my preferred argument form so I hope you can instead of accept this text form based on simple empirical logic. Try GCD queueing and using macros in the same manner. Pay attention to when your GCD abilities go off and when buffs cut into them. It's best if you can test and realize this yourself.

If you insist on video evidence, this is roughly how opener + rotation should look like, career mnks can nitpick if they want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCu5I37GVMY
If you're confident you can do that with your macros without clipping GCDs and using an efficient order for your off-GCD abilities, then all the power to you.

If you want to compare yourself to others, I suggest looking into fflogs. (highly recommended)