Monk Macros with Proper Rotation!

[Judge_Xero]

From watching the video it looks like it is causing a minimum of an 1/8th second delay per GCD due to no action queuing.

That is roughly a flat 6% DPS loss given MNKS lower GCD with GL, not accounting for anything else.

Not worth it IMO.

[Raikki]

Don't encourage people to play poorly like this, it drags the game way down.

[alsims2007]

You can also just test for yourself, Research for yourself, or just listen to the people that are trying to give you fair advice without completely writing you off but instead you write them off instantly cause they need to make a video for something that has been shown to death already. There is a reason the majority of average to top tier players are all giving you the same advice. But just keep testing on your own and you'll eventually come to the same conclusion like many before you

[Taika]

For example this video shows MNK rotation with proof of its effectiveness (parse numbers): https://youtu.be/KCu5I37GVMY?t=31s

You should be able to notice the difference between him queueing his abilities (= not using macros, so each ability happens immediately after the previous one has ended). Anyone can post a video of themselves doing a rotation, but without seeing parse numbers (or at least a SSS dummy or something), it's hard to estimate its effectiveness (and there's no point in making claims about that one way or another, since you have no proof and you really don't even know it yourself). It's been known for years now that macros cause DPS loss for DDs. Perhaps you're not familiar with how they work in this game, but please believe all the people telling you just that in this thread (or just try it yourself on a SSS dummy or with a parser in game).

[bardaboo]

Asking you what your parse number is is how people will prove that you are wrong. Posting a video of the moves will prove nothing. It's all about the dps. So if you gave people a baseline number and an ilvl they could counter with their own. If you still think that is risky post a video of a SSS dummy kill, and allow others to counter. The internet is not always a kind place, so to receive any critique it's easy to get defensive, which leads to those trying to help you getting aggressive. Let me be blunt but please understand I'm not attacking you personally, nor do i have a video to prove you wrong, nor should i need one. Yes macros can be helpful. However they are also a guarantee dps loss in most situations. Even if all you're doing is a /p "i just used this move" it can sometimes not go off. I have a stone 3,2,1 macro. A lot of times i end up using stone 1 by accident. Now, cramming ogcd moves in between gcd moves is a recipe for trouble. For a casual dungeon runner. Meh you do you, but to try and pull it off in savage esp alex 1-8 you'd be lowering your dps and putting the party at risk as dps checks were insane. So please. Take our advice without getting defensive and putting the onus on us to prove ourselves right.

[Romperstomper]

So you want to use macros? Fine, can't stop you there. That's your own laziness. However, to say it's competitive with out posting actual proof isn't how things work. You tell other people to prove you wrong? You realize the burden of proof is on you right? You have to prove to us that your macros are competitive. You're also using the wrong rotation. You're not using Demolish, which over the full duration of the ability does more DPS than Snap Punch. Your perfect balance macro also neglects having Twin Snakes and Dragon Kick used after getting GL3 up. So you're stalling the blunt debuff and a strict damage increase until after your "opener" which makes no use of OGCD skills that actually do damage, like Howling Fist and Steel Peak.

You waste time in your own macros by popping useless buffs like Featherfoot and Bloodbath. Don't get me wrong, Bloodbath has uses but not at the start of the fight when all the partial healing is you over-healing yourself.

[Romperstomper]

At the start of the fight you're like to have stoneskin and adlo or nocturnal helios on to mitigate early damage.


If you have a main character, why aren't you using the main character to show us? So, you know, you can have the full rotation with all of Monk's skills? You're missing Mercy Stroke from Marauder, which is a flat DPS increase on the OGCD. You're missing your Forbidden Chakra, which is a flat DPS increase on the OGCD. You're missing Tornado Kick, which is a flat DPS increase when the boss is about to hop away for an extended period of time. Are you even using Touch of Death? You're clearly not using Fists of Fire because I'm guessing you're thinking you need that mana pool, right? None of the fists actually drain your MP. Even if they did, the DPS increase from Fists of Fire would outweigh a Monk, being OOM.

[Romperstomper]

You say you welcome feedback? Why are comments disabled from people pointing out that you're doing it wrong? It is one thing to be a newbie, and most of us welcome newbies for that sweet, sweet lore bonus. However, you aren't posting like a newbie. You're posting like a noob. You don't know what you're talking about. You don't know what you're doing. You can't even post REAL proof that, you are in fact competitive with other Monks in your level range. You aren't even open to taking the criticism from those telling you that your macro, and rotation DO NOT WORK.

[TheRealMadruck]

Guys, I am not discrediting anyone else's information but the only thing I hear from this post from the very start is that macros especially the ones I made in the video do not work. First Judge_Nero, I was not pressing the button on my tool bar with the macro button at my very fastest as this is based on the individual player, so if you think that based solely on my demo of doing the macros on the slow pace to demonstrate how to properly and correctly do it signifies it actually being used in its final form, this is not correct. If you doubt my information, like I have asked.....copy the macro down, try it yourself pressing the buttons as fast as you can and then tell me it does not work. Second, Raikki...I am not teaching people on how play poorly on my opinion! I do not macro my aoes, I do not macro my dots or any of my movement abilities. All I did was macro the final 2 parts of the 3 part rotation in the set of 3 correct sequences. Again, if you feel that my macros are not competitive, please try them yourself....test them.

[TheRealMadruck]

You say you welcome feedback? Why are comments disabled from people pointing out that you're doing it wrong? It is one thing to be a newbie, and most of us welcome newbies for that sweet, sweet lore bonus. However, you aren't posting like a newbie. You're posting like a noob. You don't know what you're talking about. You don't know what you're doing. You can't even post REAL proof that, you are in fact competitive with other Monks in your level range. You aren't even open to taking the criticism from those telling you that your macro, and rotation DO NOT WORK.

I received 2 threats of on violence on my channel in those comments just 4 hours ago with me reporting the commentators as you see on my edit on the top post of this forums post about the subject!