Monk Macros with Proper Rotation!

[bardaboo]

Asking you what your parse number is is how people will prove that you are wrong. Posting a video of the moves will prove nothing. It's all about the dps. So if you gave people a baseline number and an ilvl they could counter with their own. If you still think that is risky post a video of a SSS dummy kill, and allow others to counter. The internet is not always a kind place, so to receive any critique it's easy to get defensive, which leads to those trying to help you getting aggressive. Let me be blunt but please understand I'm not attacking you personally, nor do i have a video to prove you wrong, nor should i need one. Yes macros can be helpful. However they are also a guarantee dps loss in most situations. Even if all you're doing is a /p "i just used this move" it can sometimes not go off. I have a stone 3,2,1 macro. A lot of times i end up using stone 1 by accident. Now, cramming ogcd moves in between gcd moves is a recipe for trouble. For a casual dungeon runner. Meh you do you, but to try and pull it off in savage esp alex 1-8 you'd be lowering your dps and putting the party at risk as dps checks were insane. So please. Take our advice without getting defensive and putting the onus on us to prove ourselves right.

[Romperstomper]

So you want to use macros? Fine, can't stop you there. That's your own laziness. However, to say it's competitive with out posting actual proof isn't how things work. You tell other people to prove you wrong? You realize the burden of proof is on you right? You have to prove to us that your macros are competitive. You're also using the wrong rotation. You're not using Demolish, which over the full duration of the ability does more DPS than Snap Punch. Your perfect balance macro also neglects having Twin Snakes and Dragon Kick used after getting GL3 up. So you're stalling the blunt debuff and a strict damage increase until after your "opener" which makes no use of OGCD skills that actually do damage, like Howling Fist and Steel Peak.

You waste time in your own macros by popping useless buffs like Featherfoot and Bloodbath. Don't get me wrong, Bloodbath has uses but not at the start of the fight when all the partial healing is you over-healing yourself.

[Romperstomper]

At the start of the fight you're like to have stoneskin and adlo or nocturnal helios on to mitigate early damage.


If you have a main character, why aren't you using the main character to show us? So, you know, you can have the full rotation with all of Monk's skills? You're missing Mercy Stroke from Marauder, which is a flat DPS increase on the OGCD. You're missing your Forbidden Chakra, which is a flat DPS increase on the OGCD. You're missing Tornado Kick, which is a flat DPS increase when the boss is about to hop away for an extended period of time. Are you even using Touch of Death? You're clearly not using Fists of Fire because I'm guessing you're thinking you need that mana pool, right? None of the fists actually drain your MP. Even if they did, the DPS increase from Fists of Fire would outweigh a Monk, being OOM.

[Romperstomper]

You say you welcome feedback? Why are comments disabled from people pointing out that you're doing it wrong? It is one thing to be a newbie, and most of us welcome newbies for that sweet, sweet lore bonus. However, you aren't posting like a newbie. You're posting like a noob. You don't know what you're talking about. You don't know what you're doing. You can't even post REAL proof that, you are in fact competitive with other Monks in your level range. You aren't even open to taking the criticism from those telling you that your macro, and rotation DO NOT WORK.

[TheRealMadruck]

You say you welcome feedback? Why are comments disabled from people pointing out that you're doing it wrong? It is one thing to be a newbie, and most of us welcome newbies for that sweet, sweet lore bonus. However, you aren't posting like a newbie. You're posting like a noob. You don't know what you're talking about. You don't know what you're doing. You can't even post REAL proof that, you are in fact competitive with other Monks in your level range. You aren't even open to taking the criticism from those telling you that your macro, and rotation DO NOT WORK.

I received 2 threats of on violence on my channel in those comments just 4 hours ago with me reporting the commentators as you see on my edit on the top post of this forums post about the subject!

[TheRealMadruck]

Guys, I am not discrediting anyone else's information but the only thing I hear from this post from the very start is that macros especially the ones I made in the video do not work. First Judge_Nero, I was not pressing the button on my tool bar with the macro button at my very fastest as this is based on the individual player, so if you think that based solely on my demo of doing the macros on the slow pace to demonstrate how to properly and correctly do it signifies it actually being used in its final form, this is not correct. If you doubt my information, like I have asked.....copy the macro down, try it yourself pressing the buttons as fast as you can and then tell me it does not work. Second, Raikki...I am not teaching people on how play poorly on my opinion! I do not macro my aoes, I do not macro my dots or any of my movement abilities. All I did was macro the final 2 parts of the 3 part rotation in the set of 3 correct sequences. Again, if you feel that my macros are not competitive, please try them yourself....test them.

[Brill_]

Guys, I am not discrediting anyone else's information but the only thing I hear from this post from the very start is that macros especially the ones I made in the video do not work. First Judge_Nero, I was not pressing the button on my tool bar with the macro button at my very fastest as this is based on the individual player, so if you think that based solely on my demo of doing the macros on the slow pace to demonstrate how to properly and correctly do it signifies it actually being used in its final form, this is not correct.

What do you mean by the macros "work"? They can work in the sense that it fires off the correct skills. But it doesn't work in the sense of maximizing DPS. What you need to prove is that your macros can maximize DPS compariable to someone that doesn't use the macros. What good will these macros be if they cause you to fail DPS checks?

[Littlevegeta]

We do not need to copy your macros to know they are garbage for doing actual content.. we aren't trying to bully you... we are trying to help you.. the burden of proof is on you.. you have to show it keeps up with other monks in dps... you can't just say things this bold and not have some form of proof? What was the whole point of your video? Was it to show that if you mash a button enough times that things will happen? If that was your point then you did a good job.. as far as showing how this works in a dungeon or raid.. you haven't proved anything...

[Loxley]

Yes, your macros work in the sense they are functional. Is it optimal? Is it competitive? Absolutely not. You are essentially fighting a losing battle against a whole thread that is telling you why it is wrong with examples where not one person has agreed with you that it works in a competitive playing field. Maybe if you did your own research you'd find youtube videos where this has been tested somewhat extensively throughout the entirety of 2.0 and it all leads to the same conclusion - you do not macro your rotation. At the end of the day if this is how you want to play, that is fine but two things:
1. Don't claim you are "teaching" people through macros where a whole thread is telling you why this is wrong to do so.
2. Expect invites being thrown at you to do serious content when there is evidence out there that both mechanically and parse wise you are losing DPS.

To be honest I think this is a thinly veiled "My $15. My play style. Parsers are bad." thread and you managed to get a lot of bites. 10/10 though good job.

[Neri]

I think someone already mentioned in this thread somewhere about reaching 60 first then try your macro on the SSS(Stone Sky Sea). If your macro can pass the dummy dps test, then it means your macro is good enough for the raiding contents or any fight that require better dps. If not, I would say that it probably enough for those normal dungeon run?