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    Firkmann Solksthalsyn
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    Monk Macros with Proper Rotation!

    (EDIT)I created a Video demonstrating a side by side comparison of doing a simple rotation for Monk using a macro compared to no macros: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIh6eGFrxFs I will correctly apply that the more line items you add to your macro does add to the decrease of your overall dps. But using a simple macro as seen in my video clearly shows that the dps you lose in comparison is as I stated.....competitive. I already know that no matter the amount of information or prove that I provide will be enough to show validity to my information based on comments that my comparison was not the full rotation or that the dps shown was not accurate based on the method obtained, the bottomline is not that it is my 15 dollars and I will play the way I want to play. It boils down to trying to help new players and others use a built in system into FF14 that should be utilized if one does choose. I thank everyone on the feedback and as always I hope my information is useful to the those few that choose to use it!

    (EDIT)I already knew after posting this last night I would get a alot of flak from Veteran players. Your only level 52(Maybe I have more than one account) Macros do not work because for they do not have fractional timing(My Macros are not Cast Sequence macros in which that statement relies, my macros are based solely on the press of a button) and so on. If you find my information wrong, please post a video of a explanation on why you make that statement with details as your proof. If my information does not work for you, please do not use it. But do not come unto my Youtube Channel and make threats to me in regards to bodily harm as 2 players have already done so I will not have to report it.

    I created this video to help new players and veterans alike on macros I created with a rotation guide. I apologize the for the Audio but I have notes into my main 3 macros that I use and I hope it helps others. If you have have any comments on the information I have made on the video, I humble ask you to test the macros yourself and do a honest comparison before throw my information out of hand. I hope it helps others! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1OaUR0ZAg4
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    Last edited by TheRealMadruck; 11-29-2016 at 07:09 PM.
    I guess it's my fate as a Dark Knight. Soon, I won't even feel any remorse for my actions!-Cecil Harvey-FFIV DRK

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    I've been a lazy monk, and have not tried to produce a special opener. Even so, I'd expect the best PB opener would have two Snap Punches followed by a Demolish, and then nothing but True Strike until PB runs out - with possibly a Snap Punch at the very end just to refresh GL3.

    Other than that, its a clever use of macros to get the rotation in without wasting GCD time. I do something similar with my one monk macro (its just the three buffs : Blood for Blood, Internal Release, Bloodbath; Bloodbath I find helps to counter any damage taken from Blood for Blood's drawback), though I just hammer that macro in between other moves when I want to stack my buffs.
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    You're joking aren't you? Please tell me you're joking...
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    I don't play MNK but it is generally known that macros are a dps loss.
    They are mostly used with some ground AoEs or in my case with turrets.
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    Shiroe Enchanter
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    If you want to macro i would suggest less is better HOWEVER if your gonna use them like this I would suggest changing the PB One, Try to make a macro that goes PB, snap, snap, dragonkick, twin snakes, snap. That way all your buffs are up from GCD. (clearly you would start with form shift to demolish first) and then the macros themselves might be more viable for more of a casual approach to monk.
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    Ruby Cirha
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    Wile I do wish macros could be done with mnk but I'll be honest it is a bit of a dps loss to do them that way might I suggest only useing macros for like your forms like if the tank dies macro fist of the earth with for sight or something like that but eh to each there own if this work for you then you do you but at end game macros are realy only used for cds or for flavor text
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    OP, people throw macros out of the window for valid reasons:
    -Macros don't queue GCD abilities, so you lose a fraction of a second on every ability, leading to an overall loss.
    -Popping buffs within GCD macros often clip into GCD, especially with fast classes like MNK who can only afford to pop one buff between GCDs. This is an even bigger loss than the first point.
    -Putting buffs into GCD macros also loses all control you have over their general timing. This will make your opener garbage, unable to hold burst for specific dps checks, unable to control when to pop your defensive buffs and so on.
    -As for MNK specific critque: you're using a less than optimal opener and rotation. I'd suggest going through some MNK guides in the DPS section.

    Please learn to keybind instead of using macros. You can easily bind 3 hotbars into reachable locations around your movement keys even without a special keyboard or mouse with extra buttons. The ability bloat is real, but macros are not the answer.
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    Last edited by Kitfox; 11-27-2016 at 01:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    Please learn to keybind instead of using macros. You can easily bind 3 hotbars into reachable locations around your movement keys even without a special keyboard or mouse with extra buttons. The ability bloat is real, but macros are not the answer.
    Looked to me like he was trying to use the macro system as a form of keybinding. /shrug
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    Austen Bloodspatter
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    also macros don't work with fractional seconds if i'm not mistaken, so you can potentially loose 1 second/skill in a macro.
    so...don't macro...
    macros are better for DoH, or stuff where fractional seconds don't matter, like stating you used berserk, please esuna/leech in X seconds, and other texts.
    the only time i'd recommend using macros, as DoW/M, is if you actually don't have any fingers or arms.
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    Please show your parses since you claim you can be competitive with macros also you aren't 60.
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