RE: Live Letter Feedback - DO NOT disable chat in PvP

[Fynlar]

I don't know why ANY chat is disabled in pvp to begin with. All this does is turn away people who might otherwise play the mode.

The people who actually care enough to want to communicate strategy or whatever "behind the scenes" are already probably using some kind of voicechat program anyway.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

One consistency I see among those who think this change is good is that they may have at some point had a bad experience or dealt with another player's bad attitude. I sympathize, but you must understand that mistakes happen. Sometimes yours, sometimes someone else's, but the team pays for it, and that can be very upsetting. Beyond that, even if you do everything right, someone may still have an issue with you or say something ill-intended toward you. . . just like in PvE content. Vitriolic and negative players have been around longer than PvP has and let's not try to treat it like it's exclusive to PvP alone.

By that same token, is this really the answer? Restricting communication in a mode that pretty much requires it for success? And all because of the actions of a few negative players, many of which have likely been punished for it? Let it be said and understood here and now, and I would personally love the same urgency in acknowledging this as the top 10 minion concerns received: Square Enix, disabling chat and offering a basic macro command system instead is a bad idea that will not solve the core problem, but will instead add further complication that compounds the same problem. Furthermore, this will discourage newer players from trying the Feast and add greater difficulty for mentors and more experienced players to teach how to play the game mode. And for console specific players, this will add EVEN MORE difficulty in communicating as we generally have issues with hotbar space, even with the recent WXHB addition. This is a very bad idea and may potentially ruin the mode as a whole, and those of us who actively participate in and enjoy the Feast ask that you give this matter absolute and utmost reconsideration.

[TiaHariberux3]

I don't know why ANY chat is disabled in pvp to begin with. All this does is turn away people who might otherwise play the mode.

The people who actually care enough to want to communicate strategy or whatever "behind the scenes" are already probably using some kind of voicechat program anyway.

Because you should pvp and try to win the game instead of talking to ur ls/fc. lol

[Naunet]

How can you give feedback without trying out the new feature, they give us to "test" actually. Nobody said that is a permanent solution. We dont even know how those motions will work during a fight, if there will be a message pop up for everyone or only role based, if there will be a text to the motion or only the emote self. Just wait and see...

Once again a situation that begs for a PTR. >_<

Because you should pvp and try to win the game instead of talking to ur ls/fc. lol

SE doesn't need to hold peoples' hands. They go a little crazy with the micromanaging of player behavior.

[Rita1989]

I kind of agree with this change the one thing I hated when I did the feast was seeing people turn on the healer almost every other match every time they would die.

SE decided to do this because the majority of the chat was being used as harassment rather then being used for strategy and most good pvp players were using macro's anyways so if they can convert those to auto-translate commands it shouldn't be that bad.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I kind of agree with this change the one thing I hated when I did the feast was seeing people turn on the healer almost every other match every time they would die.

SE decided to do this because the majority of the chat was being used as harassment rather then being used for strategy and most good pvp players were using macro's anyways so if they can convert those to auto-translate commands it shouldn't be that bad.

In all 3 seasons, I can safely say most players do NOT harrass or bicker or put down each other. It DOES happen, but to far less of a degree that people make it out to be. I would like to defeat that misconception right now that the chat was more for harrassment than anything else (because let's face it, if you're harassing your team the whole time, are you winning?)

[Noutaja]

Getting a new map for the feast and disabling chat is the best news I could have ever heard. This is a very good solution to a huge and to be honest immature problem that the feast community really suffers from mainly due to the prizes and rankings, now I actually have no demand for an unranked 4v4. Now I can play the feast without ANY toxicity from anybody, I can just blacklist the remaining people who have given me an incredible amount of absolutely useless flaming in all kinds of forms before, for whatever reason they see fit after losing and sometimes even if we won. Also even before the game starts for no reason. And even during battle... No more of that Im loving it, honestly. This is great news. Thank you SE!

Macros is what I have been using for calling attack on certain target, full swing notice, (double/triple/single) Fell Cleave notice, retreat call and some others. Hopefully I can still do just as much with the options SE gives.

We still have a huge bunch of emoticons which we can use to greet and communicate with our friends before battle begins. This is good enough for me. I hope SE keeps giving us some good prizes too. The certain PVP people who love flaming and other childish behaviour can do it in their own discords and linkshells. And have a fun time with themselves (the trytards)! Lmao. I will for sure that is a fact, this is awesome. The flaming has met its end guys! Everybody can enjoy the feast now. I bet this will make the feast much more popular too.

Thank you Square Enix! <3

[Lone-wolfe-02]

I'm not surprised they're doing this, honestly PvPers have no one to blame but themselves shouldn't be so toxic.

[Zeonsilt]

Disabling chat in PVP is wrong decision for high-ranked pvp, should stay in ranked mode(s).

For casual (unranked) pvp modes - it doesn't matter, honestly.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I'm not surprised they're doing this, honestly PvPers have no one to blame but themselves shouldn't be so toxic.

I have to ask: Do you PvP? Do you even know any PvPers on your server?

Because I do. Hell, I'm slowly building up a PvP community on Goblin, as small as we are, and not one of my people are even remotely toxic, regardless of levels of experience. I know and regularly match with and against many skilled players and the majority simply just enjoy PvP. We win, we lose, we move on, and all the toxicity people who don't PvP regularly have made up is simply, largely, not there.

Please stop making blanket statements about other players you make no attempt to play with or understand.