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  1. #71
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    worldofneil's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitoo View Post
    then grow up and disable your chat window in pvp instead demanding mute mandtory mute function
    Hey this is nothing to do with me. I never suggested it, nor pushed for it. I'm just agreeing with it after SE already announced it.

    I'm only posting in this thread so that other players (and SE) can see there are players who agree with this decision (and why). Not asking, or expecting, anyone to agree with my opinions, only stating what they are.
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  2. 11-26-2016 07:07 AM

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    Februs Harrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    I wish that wasn't the case, but my own experiences have demonstrated that other players don't really offer helpful suggestions and will either be silent or very aggresive. So as such there isn't really anything to relieve such ignorance (in game anyway) and if the only thing being spoken is negative, it might as well be blocked.
    Only that's not the case.

    They might be part of the minority, but some players actually talk shop in PvP. Some have custom maccros which actually serve a purpose for the team. Some people do strategic call-outs. Some people offer constructive criticism. Even if what they say is harshly worded, there's a purpose to it. The first step to fixing problems is admitting you have one. Players who make mistakes will NEVER fix those mistakes if they are not told that they are making them. Sure, people don't have to be mean about it, but they also don't have to be blind and deaf.

    It's not just an issue for harassment, either. Top-end players don't get high in the rankings by only using chat for negative comments. Burst coordination, CC coordination, healing and mitigation call outs, buff call outs, strategy, stack counts, priority targets and mana requests are all things that are regularly seen in chat. Throwing in a few place-holder maccros is not an adequate replacement for actual communication when there are this many things to consider, especially in solo-queue where parties are random.
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  4. 11-26-2016 07:10 AM

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    Yea in soloq you really have to just look for burst indicators and stun when you see them. IR on monk, botd on drg, suiton on ninja, hawk eye on ranged, raging on caster. Advice I would give you in game if I could chat ;3
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  6. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Well, if people could just remain civil and act like mature adults, SE wouldn't even have considered something like chat restriction in the first place. They did that because far too many people for their liking could not and they felt the amount of effort required to police these people disproportionate.

    The effort of you disabling your own pvp chat is too big? And the mature thing here is to disable it for all people, even if they dont want it?

    all righty then


    Quote Originally Posted by Alysanne View Post
    Pot meet kettle.
    are you not the one who was talking about wine? go do that pls, you have no business in grown up stuff
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  7. #75
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    Scott is entitled to his opinion, but he can turn chat off already if he doesn't want to listen to chat. It would be a hindrance to his team, but at least other people would be able to chat.

    In WoW, people just went to extremes to harass people. They would create alts and send tells to the person after a match. This isn't stopping harassment, it is just crippling a community that already has it rough.
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    Last edited by TiramisuMacaron; 11-26-2016 at 07:22 AM. Reason: Phone autocorrected poorly

  8. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Hey this is nothing to do with me. I never suggested it, nor pushed for it. I'm just agreeing with it after SE already announced it.

    I'm only posting in this thread so that other players (and SE) can see there are players who agree with this decision (and why). Not asking, or expecting, anyone to agree with my opinions, only stating what they are.
    yeah i read your post, and they are implying that this is the best thing ever even if you could do this before for yourself

    so you finding good that other players get robbed of free choice of communication even if you could do this long before

    again: alrighty then
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  9. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitoo View Post
    are you not the one who was talking about wine? go do that pls, you have no business in grown up stuff
    The irony in someone arguing against this decision being the perfect example of why it should be implemented.
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  10. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitoo View Post
    And the mature thing here is to disable it for all people, even if they dont want it?
    No, the mature thing is to not rage in the first place, but rather take a step back, a deep breath and a break when you get angry. Which you should probably do right now because you are not being particularly mature.

    Disabling chat is just the easy way out, that has nothing to do with maturity and all to do with cost/time efficiency.
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  11. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    some players actually talk shop in PvP
    For what it's worth, I thought you made some good points and I do see that blocking the chat will be genuine hindrance for some players. I also accept that my experiences probably give me an extremely skewed view of the overall picture.

    Perhaps one day I'll see it from your side (although probably not if SE does block chat...)
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  12. #80
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    Or people can just take the time to learn the game. SE does nothing to tell or force them to play at even a basic level. The vast majority of the, "negative comments" comes out from people not having a single clue about what they are in, doing, and/or their class.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    No, the mature thing is to not rage in the first place, but rather take a step back, a deep breath and a break when you get angry.
    Teen rated game. Everyone could be below 18 here.
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    Last edited by Animosite; 11-26-2016 at 07:39 AM.

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