The New Chat Restriction in The Feast

[Kaitoo]

The irony in someone arguing against this decision being the perfect example of why it should be implemented.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...77#post3935277

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Maybe you should working on your ability to understand context before switching to figure of speechs you dont recognize

[Zojha]

And the mature thing here is to disable it for all people, even if they dont want it?

No, the mature thing is to not rage in the first place, but rather take a step back, a deep breath and a break when you get angry. Which you should probably do right now because you are not being particularly mature.

Disabling chat is just the easy way out, that has nothing to do with maturity and all to do with cost/time efficiency.

[Kaitoo]

No, the mature thing is to not rage in the first place, but rather take a step back, a deep breath and a break when you get angry. Which you should probably do right now because you are not being particularly mature.

Disabling chat is just the easy way out, that has nothing to do with maturity and all to do with cost/time efficiency.

You are saying that its better that SE disables all chat in pvp rather people who are even cant be bothered to report it ?

Are we gonna disable chat in duty finder now too? go in the duty finder thread, plenty of people are more raging then in pvp

i dont need to take a step back, its just plain wrong

[Zojha]

i dont need to take a step back, its just plain wrong

Oh, it definitely is wrong. But you're still reacting immaturely and pulling strawman after strawman to make a point that hasn't even been questioned by the person you are addressing with them.

What would be "right" is to chat restrict the accounts of those who have been found guilty of abuse to prevent further damage and remove them from the ladder for the rest of the season as lesson for the future and deterrence. SE just doesn't do that because it would require hand checking every case.

[Kaitoo]

Oh, it definitely is wrong. But you're still reacting immaturely and pulling strawman after strawman to make a point that hasn't even been questioned by the person you are addressing with them.

What would be "right" is to chat restrict the accounts of those who have been found guilty of abuse to prevent further damage and remove them from the ladder for the rest of the season as lesson for the future and deterrence.

there is new strawman, its, again, a simple fact that that kind of behaivor exist in pve too but its not punished like that way.


Also how does it add up that pvp is very niche in this game but they cant cope with the reports?

[Gumbercules]

You are saying that its better that SE disables all chat in pvp rather people who are even cant be bothered to report it ?

Are we gonna disable chat in duty finder now too? go in the duty finder thread, plenty of people are more raging then in pvp

i dont need to take a step back, its just plain wrong

If SE went though chat logs for party finder and found the norm to be toxicity over cooperation, they prolly would implement this there too :P Honestly im hoping we get a dev response about this cuz I am curious just how bad it was that they went over chatlogs and decided this was the way to go.

[Februs]

If SE went though chat logs for party finder and found the norm to be toxicity over cooperation, they prolly would implement this there too :P Honestly im hoping we get a dev response about this cuz I am curious just how bad it was that they went over chatlogs and decided this was the way to go.

Those would probably be very boring logs lol.

9/10 runs of standard DF content consist of {Hello!} at the start and "Ty4p" at the end, because most of the standard content is so brainless that it can all be face-rolled. The only exceptions are 24 man raids, extreme level trials, or savage raids, and all of those are just as toxic as PvP. Some of the PF groups for savage or extreme content, in particular, can be downright disgusting. That said, if SE made the same decision for that content, the community would probably explode in protest. As usual, SE seems to be making an exception to their "standards" when it comes to PvP.

I am definitely curious about what those standards are, though. For example, what exactly do they consider "Harassment." Do they distinguish between strongly worded criticism and flat-out hate mail? Do they flag every disagreement (some of which are valid arguments) as harassment? Do they monitor macros or just typed chat? Do they have a program that picks out specific words? Things like that. Obviously, any case of wishing cancer upon someone is pretty cut and dry, but what about times when people just get into an argument? Or if someone was over-sensitive to being called-out on a mistake? I'd be interested to see how many of those instances were slapped with a "Harassment" label, if any.

[Animosite]

Or people can just take the time to learn the game. SE does nothing to tell or force them to play at even a basic level. The vast majority of the, "negative comments" comes out from people not having a single clue about what they are in, doing, and/or their class.

No, the mature thing is to not rage in the first place, but rather take a step back, a deep breath and a break when you get angry.

Teen rated game. Everyone could be below 18 here.

[SuperZay]

Nice. I will not see 'please dont que' and 'you're a cancer' again.

If you can't behave like a civilized human being, you don't deserve a party chat.

[Animosite]

Nice. I will not see 'please dont que' and 'you're a cancer' again.

If you can't behave like a civilized human being, you don't deserve a party chat.

If you can't play like a human being, you don't deserve a party chat.