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  1. #591
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    Moomba33's Avatar
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    Ultros
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    I don't remember who posted it originally but I like the idea of the chat restriction being turned on for players that are reported for harassment instead of it being the default for everyone.
    GMs could check the chat logs to re-enable it for people that were unfairly reported and decide on an appropriate duration for offenders when they investigate the reports.
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  2. #592
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    Cordelia Primerain
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    Lich
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Oh, you expected the GMs on Chaos datacenter to take care of the offenders?
    Well, I had a GM solve the mystery for me!




    TL;DR : well, we do get the reports, but we aren't rly gonna do anything about them, coz privacy policy lets us.
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  3. #593
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    You're again using anecdotal evidence to support your stance, this time that because GMs won't do anything about it, the chat restriction for EVERYONE is acceptable.

    I'm sorry, but it's not.
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    Last edited by ThirdChild_ZKI; 02-04-2017 at 11:17 AM.

  4. #594
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    Knives Stryfe
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    I don't know why you are still trying to waste your breath trying to reason with that cordie guy. Just ignore him like everyone else already started to. There's no point in holding any value to the words of a person who has the most minimal experience possible in the topic they are hilariously trying to preach about.
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  5. #595
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    You're again using anecdotal evidence to support your stance, this time that because GMs won't do anything about it, the chat restriction for EVERYONE is acceptable.

    I'm sorry, but it's not.
    You know what it is a good example of. That they should have a real PvP community/moderator/ A real thread discussing actions taken on who and why. Someone who makes a report to the players weekly reviews current situations. A real pvp team or at least person. But sadly we get the blah blah policy stuff. and threads people posting names of people they think are cheating
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  6. #596
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    Lace Valeria
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    I agree. This, and many other examples of poor handling of PvP content and it's primary playerbase really speaks in volumes that it's simply not enough to offer the content, but fully and properly support it. From updates to troubleshooting, to active, TIMELY communication with said playerbase, just as with PvE.

    As it stands, SE, things CAN be better. And we have done quite a bit to express ideas (side note: it is now 21 pages after "If anyone has any suggestions", please read them carefully). It is up to you to do your part now.
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  7. #597
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    That's a good idea, Moonlite.. add some transparency to the process so people know who is saying what. I'm pretty sure the ragers would think twice if they knew their "poetry" would be visible to everyone.

    Dimitrii :
    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    As for "higher levels of play" why do you ppl even need chat in the first place? if it is truly "high-level", with an insanely limited system as a 4-vs-4 encounter with fully known actions, time restraints for each, and no higher order of applicable tactics than "buff/heal ally - debuff/kill enemy", you should be zerging this on flowchart by now.
    Why are you still complaining btw?
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  8. #598
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    K'uso Watashi
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    Clearly has no idea what "high level" is.
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  9. #599
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    Quote Originally Posted by KusoWat View Post
    Clearly has no idea what "high level" is.
    oh please enlighten me. Maybe I'm thinking of something much higher than what you'd have in mind... or not, how could I..

    Edit: Yes, I see.. You want to present yourself as high-level without ever bothering to actually solve the game. Very convenient, but I'm not buying this.
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    Last edited by Cordie; 02-04-2017 at 12:18 PM.

  10. #600
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    Oh, you expected the GMs on Chaos datacenter to take care of the offenders?
    Well, I had a GM solve the mystery for me!




    TL;DR : well, we do get the reports, but we aren't rly gonna do anything about them, coz privacy policy lets us.
    1. You dont know if the person got any penalty (could be just a warning etc.)
    2. They dont tell you about it because people could abuse this information
    3. Thinking that they dont do anything against harassment is not true GMs punish you pretty strict and hard if you harass a other person
    4. Posting a screenshot of a conversation with a GM without any context isnt any proof or what so ever I'm pretty sure the GM who knows the whole case and has chatlogs etc. can judge better
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