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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    I just want to make sure I am understanding, because if i am understanding correctly I do not get the reply. My point with the question is are top 30 or so, still playing in feast or even bothering farming for the event for the mount because of no chat in fear ill hurt their rank too much.


    So that means it had a strong dying off?
    Top players on Aether zerged 8v8, light party, and frontlines premades for GARO. Nobody touches solo q anymore.
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    Actually the new chat is perfectly fine. I never got anything more interesting in it before 3.5, (minus raging, trash-talking and exchanges of insults, which upon reporting, the GMs would ignore right away).

    If you can't follow target/ignore/bind marks and waypoints, maybe you should take up something less demanding.. I hear fishing is quite interesting at lv60.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    Actually the new chat is perfectly fine. I never got anything more interesting in it before 3.5, (minus raging, trash-talking and exchanges of insults, which upon reporting, the GMs would ignore right away).

    If you can't follow target/ignore/bind marks and waypoints, maybe you should take up something less demanding.. I hear fishing is quite interesting at lv60.
    There's FAR more to the Feast than that, unless perhaps you're referring to Frontlines, which is played quite differently, and the chat restriction doesn't apply to besides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    Actually the new chat is perfectly fine. I never got anything more interesting in it before 3.5, (minus raging, trash-talking and exchanges of insults, which upon reporting, the GMs would ignore right away).

    If you can't follow target/ignore/bind marks and waypoints, maybe you should take up something less demanding.. I hear fishing is quite interesting at lv60.
    It's really fun playing an 8V8 and having two tanks with 8/9 stacks continuously run into the backlines and go for healers, immediately run back because they took damage, and immediately run back in. Forcing healers to spend way more resources of their moves because there's no way to tell them to stop doing that.

    Honestly? The only way I've gotten people to stop doing stupid mistakes is using "Nice job!" "Thank you!" in the most sarcastic way possible in the Feast. Oh you died with ten stacks? Nice job! Nice job! Nice job!

    There's no way to tell people how the game actually works with this new chat system. That's why it's -not- fine. You can't help new PvPers and they end up having an awful experience. The minute before the match starts also opens up a HUGE amount of time to coordinate that you just can't do with these restrictions.

    In regards to the marks, a lot of people really don't care about that. It's easy to say that those players should do something else. The problem? They won't. No amount of chat restriction is going to explain that they shouldn't attack x target or focus y target for these players.
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    So this is SE's idea of balance? a premade with outside chat vs no chat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Indicative View Post
    It's really fun playing an 8V8 and having two tanks with 8/9 stacks continuously run into the backlines and go for healers, immediately run back because they took damage, and immediately run back in. Forcing healers to spend way more resources of their moves because there's no way to tell them to stop doing that.

    Honestly? The only way I've gotten people to stop doing stupid mistakes is using "Nice job!" "Thank you!" in the most sarcastic way possible in the Feast. Oh you died with ten stacks? Nice job! Nice job! Nice job!

    There's no way to tell people how the game actually works with this new chat system. That's why it's -not- fine. You can't help new PvPers and they end up having an awful experience. The minute before the match starts also opens up a HUGE amount of time to coordinate that you just can't do with these restrictions.

    In regards to the marks, a lot of people really don't care about that. It's easy to say that those players should do something else. The problem? They won't. No amount of chat restriction is going to explain that they shouldn't attack x target or focus y target for these players.
    Did you read closely to the quote you are replying to? It is passive-aggressive, I am sure someone tried to give them advice, threw out some line that is basically "Do not tell me how to play, I know what I am doing" and people flip out. My friend told a person once "do not run in 10 people solo, you will be killed" only to get a reply of "I am new, don't be a cuck" I am sure a lot of people saying no chat is fine, have that attitude. They also have low experience if they think it is that simple.

    Why is there so little communication to us by SE in regards with this issue? oh wait it is just like the change to feast. *blows MLG horn*
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    Last edited by Ama_Hamada; 01-31-2017 at 11:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    Why is there so little communication to us by SE in regards with this issue? oh wait it is just like the change to feast. *blows MLG horn*
    With something as huge as a chat restriction, I do really wish there was.more foresight and discussion with the community before just outright implementing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    Actually the new chat is perfectly fine. I never got anything more interesting in it before 3.5, (minus raging, trash-talking and exchanges of insults, which upon reporting, the GMs would ignore right away).

    If you can't follow target/ignore/bind marks and waypoints, maybe you should take up something less demanding.. I hear fishing is quite interesting at lv60.
    No mounts from the new PVP event, eh? Even after it's been out for all this time?

    Why am I not surprised?
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    off-topic:
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    No mounts from the new PVP event, eh? Even after it's been out for all this time?

    Why am I not surprised?
    uhmmm no.. I won't take ugly gear and a ridiculous-looking title just for another Kirin of sorts. I picked a total of 3-4 pieces for some jobs, and other than that the only use I have for Wolf Marks is levelling desynth skill (works rly well for 165+).
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    Last edited by Cordie; 02-01-2017 at 03:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    uhmmm no.. I won't take ugly gear and a ridiculous-looking title just for another Kirin of sorts. I picked a total of 3-4 pieces for some jobs, and other than that the only use I have for Wolf Marks is levelling desynth skill (works rly well for 165+).
    But...you work towards those rewards just by actively PVPing. There's really no reason to not have them if you are actually PVPing post-3.5, except as some kind of weird boycott to the Garo event for some reason. Your achievements weren't visible, and I didn't see you on the Feast ladder, and you're not even wearing any of the gear on your current job, BLM, so I have no idea if you're actually PVPing or not, or just a PVE player who derped around in the mode for a little bit and felt qualified to comment on the chat removal nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    If you can't follow target/ignore/bind marks and waypoints, maybe you should take up something less demanding.. I hear fishing is quite interesting at lv60.
    Amusingly condescending attitude for someone who sounds so ignorant in alluding that these basic, overly simplified, and uninformative quick chat options combined with said markers is enough to coordinate team battle strategy, tactics and commands at high levels of play. Makes anyone question whether you have ever ranked within the top 100 any of the seasons past or present, or even reached Gold or higher rank if you believe something as asinine as that. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you at least have though and are just merely trolling with that comment. Otherwise if not kindly keep oblivious comments like that to yourself, no one wants to listen to you talk about things you know nothing about.
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    Last edited by Dimitrii; 02-01-2017 at 12:23 PM.

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