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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by KusoWat View Post
    Censorship has never, and will never, fix anything. This is no exception.
    Oh, certainly not. But "fixing" it isn't in the interest of the PvP community, since it would mean removing the mode that causes these troubles in the first place. If you prefer that, feel free to make a petition, but I doubt you'll garner much support.

    The alternative? Magically give every rager the mental strength to keep their frustration away from other people. Not realistic either.

    Bans are just another form of censorship and thus, no solution according to yourself.

    If you got a real solution to the issue that manages to serve the interests of all involved - SE is searching. I personally would just have posted an assortment of anonymous chatlogs from reports, a nice statistic on the report situation, then removed the respective mode and put a single:"This is why you can't have nice things." under the entry. But I'm the nightmare of any PR department.
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    Mimiwa Miwa
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
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    So your preferred solution is to just eliminate pvp altogether because surely, all the toxicity is here.

    Please. If there was any required PvE content that was remotely difficult, the same thing would happen there as well. Like many have said previously, if you're a little thin-skinned you can just hide your chat log when you enter the feast. This just hurt the entire community for no good reason, how is it so hard to understand? I'm not even mentioning the limitations of the new macro system, and how it can be abused as well. When you screw up in PvP just expect to get spammed with "Nice Job!" instead.
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    Player Februs's Avatar
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    Februs Harrow
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Imika View Post
    So your preferred solution is to just eliminate pvp altogether because surely, all the toxicity is here.

    Please. If there was any required PvE content that was remotely difficult, the same thing would happen there as well.
    Does happen there as well.

    No matter how bad the toxicity can be in PvP, I've seen it far worse in Savage Raids, especially when they are new. The smallest mistakes can cause a wipe and can generate blood boiling levels of rage. Unless you know and have a good relationship with the people you raid with, than there is a very high risk that they will explode at the drop of a pin. It's all fine and dandy to point fingers at those big and mean PvP people, but it's not like this doesn't happen anywhere else in the game. The only difference is that 99% of the players have not, and will likely never, go into a savage level raid, especially using PF or RF, so they're unlikely to even know about it. I guess the moral of the story is supposed to be that it's totally fine so long as no one knows about it?
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