The New Chat Restriction in The Feast

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Alright Riyah, all the proof that this chat restriction has NOT solved the problem it was intended to is all through this thread. And for different reasons entirely, I actually went through the entirety of it again today. Find me somewhere that someone noted - realistically - that the chat restriction has actually helped them or somehow improved the Feast experience. That's my challenge to you.

3.x vs 4.x PvP, we're not having that debate today. We've done that so many times and gotten nowhere, that I just don't feel like disproving whatever you might seem to come up with on the fly. Not today.

It's worth noting however that in the absence of proper communication and tuning, SE's REALLY trying to double down on "foolproofing" the Feast where it's just not needed. Rank being unaffected by rating loss (via highest rating per season being static)? Medal caps? Light Medal buffs? Open your eyes and see that they're simply patching the holes that have been made by overall poor handling of their "premier" PvP all this time. Instead of proper balancing, they think tweaking numbers and reshuffling skills will fix issues with a fundamentally lacking "foundation" of a system? They still haven't even revealed the Season 6 prize and there's only 3 days left.

This problem runs deeper than what you clearly don't even see. And yet SE would have people thinking that things are getting better, or that we've got a "foundation" for a better overall PvP experience. . . really? Cause it seems to me that players being able to communicate effectively with each other (this is completely separate of possible issues with conduct) would alleviate the need for baked-in medal caps, like we were fully capable of before. Light medal is unnecessary because no one will bother going after the guy with almost no medals, but now they're giving him a defense buff. Basing rank off highest rating points gained would be a good idea if issues with queues weren't already a prevalent thing, and it feels a lot like a crutch given to protect players from rating losses due to others who don't know or don't care what to do and how, and because no one can even tell them, both due to the restriction, AND possible fear of reprisal from someone who suddenly decides they're too sensitive and not only can't stand losing, but can't even understand their own actions that caused it.

THIS is the reality of what's happening now, but you're too busy trying to posture as someone with the answers, and it needs to be said that you're not. You're NOT. You have been disproven and corrected, on this and many other things on this forum, SO many times that I actually feel bad about it. I strongly suggest you really take a look at what's going on before trying to speak out again.

[RiyahArp]

They keep trying to foolproof it because you are working with randoms. They limited the medals because you can't rely on solo queuers not hogging them, and then literally losing the match for you. They nerf rotations because all it took was one dps who struggled in with his HW rotation to doom the match, again. They removed CC because it really highlighted the difference in skill via healers; an average one would just get their butt kicked while the dps ignored them and used purify on themselves and didn't cover. You keep saying "communication" but randoms didn't communicate when we had chat half the time, and all it takes is one guy who doesn't listen to make it a loss. An it just takes one guy who uses chat to ream out someone instead of playing to not only cause a loss, but possible sour players off the mode altogether.

I mean, you keep blaming the player for not getting good instead of realizing the mode is so high skill that it just takes one person to wreck it, and not even through the whole match. That tank lost it in the last five seconds because he missed one signal. Or all it takes is the healer getting tired and not able to counter cc for ten seconds, letting the tank who has all the medals be killed since the healer is the only one who can keep them up. They are trying to soften this I think, because randoms can;t really handle this level of coordination and skill in the same way you can't make them handle hard pve in party finder. That's not going to change if we revert everything to 3.0, and right now all this "it was better in the old days" is just hiding that.

So Idk, we can give you 3.0 back. right now its just counterproductive, you fixate on it, so get it out of the way so people cant use the new stuff as a scapegoat. Maybe then they will embrace ranked team play or something.

[Awha]

In no way am I defending SE actions regarding removal of chat.

As players we lack any data but maybe in the eyes of SE and the info provided by their data they view the change as a success since maybe report frequency has had a noticeable decline. Of course this is only speculation.

I wish they would revert said changes, until players get some thicker skin, or the numbers for feast fall into the single digits. I do not see stubborn Yoshi-P reverting the change.

[PristineIsland]

There's no way to ask for assistance if you're being attacked. The last three feast matches I got targeted by both enemy dps instantly, and my team started attacking the tank. Quick chat doesn't have an option to say "i'm being targeted, protect your healer."