The New Chat Restriction in The Feast

[Moonlite]

I can say with absolute certainty that toxicity has been and will continue to be policed harshly. It's the only thing they really do police in PvP, since cheaters/feeders/etc. are almost never dealt with.

The amount of people getting reported must have been huge to implement this. I don't know how punishment is handled but it hasn't been enough to deter the general masses.The biggest thing for me, is this is probably the easiest fix. The option to disable individual players might have been more work. Disbaled chat and an icon of shame (like the new player leaf) seems more fitting to me.

[Gumbercules]

The amount of people getting reported must have been huge to implement this. I don't know how punishment is handled but it hasn't been enough to deter the general masses.The biggest thing for me, is this is probably the easiest fix. The option to disable individual players might have been more work. Disbaled chat and an icon of shame (like the new player leaf) seems more fitting to me.

From what I can gather, its not even about "harassment reports" least not in a "we had so many we will do this" Apparently was more of the harassment reports making them go through chat logs and seeing it used for macro'd commands and toxicity... hence why i think it might still let you use macros and all auto translate. I could be wrong though :P

[Zojha]

for f*** sake its like some people are 12 years old here and cant social interact with other human beings even through the internet

Well, if people could just remain civil and act like mature adults, SE wouldn't even have considered something like chat restriction in the first place. They did that because far too many people for their liking could not and they felt the amount of effort required to police these people disproportionate.

hence why i think it might still let you use macros and all auto translate. I could be wrong though :P

They most likely will not allow macros, because you could just write your nasties into those. At the very best, they'd allow full auto-translate macros, but that would require a check I doubt they'd program extra.

[kioku]

Chiming in to agree that this is a TERRIBLE idea. Yes there is toxicity in Feast but there is toxicity in any ranked PVP, regardless of what game you go to. That is something that should be handled by, as Stefan suggested, muting players who repeatedly abuse/harass their teammates. To make it even easier, add a report system available at the end of a match to report someone for using abusive language and investigate/mute based on the reports received. Would that report system itself be abused? Probably! But the "Report as RMT" system made a huge difference and there are GMs to investigate the reports (and a false report could count as a strike towards the submitter).


Now, without chat in Feast, communicating strategies will be difficult. Yes, SE will be providing us with premade macros to communicate with but will they cover the spectrum of the current macros? Will we be able to give new PVPers feedback with those premade macros? I would hope so but I also seriously doubt it will be enough. I've seen some really great communication macros beyond what is 'normally' used in PVP (e.g. specifying the tank/melee/healer/ranged to pick up medals vs a generic "Get medals!" macro, recast macros for Purify/Attunement, etc). And I honestly cannot see a way to give proper feedback to a new person without normal chat, as I seriously doubt SE will include an auto-translate that says "Tank should switch in to tank stance and avoid picking up medals once they hit 4 stacks."

[Gumbercules]

from what i can tell you can still use auto translate options plus will get added pvp translations/command like actions (looked like maybe things along "focus this" that also might put an icon on the focus.) The idea to allow it at start is nice though, give ppl the opening to strategize. I would be more against this if FPS games didn't already use systems like this and those are pretty fast paced. Well have to see it in play however and i really hope they give a grace period before an actual season starts like with it implemented. (admittedly i don't pvp much in ff 14 but i would have loved this system in wow lol)

[kisada]

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[Guesswhat]

Did SE hire Anita Sarkeesian...?

Well, I agree with OP. This may actually backfire. Sure, most will bite their tongue and deal with it, but this sort of policing will bring forth the worst in some people.

It would be better if they handled it in a similar manner as they did with rmt. For example a context menu on the names of your teammates after each match (select player -> report harassment). Needles to say it would have to be somewhat restricted (avoid spam reporting).
If reported and found guilty then NO CHAT FOR U!
Of course, this would probably rise other issues, and SE will probably avoid spending resources on a system like this.

[Enlial]

Well, I agree with OP. This may actually backfire. Sure, most will bite their tongue and deal with it, but this sort of policing will bring forth the worst in some people.

Arent they also adding cross world chat? If thats the case, and its unrestricted, lol yes, this will backfire.