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  1. #1
    Player
    Aniya_Estlihn's Avatar
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    Izayoi Niwa
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Remove the restriction. If people can't handle a bit of criticism or others frustration, they have no purpose queuing for the Feast in the first place.
    The last thing the team should have thought was acceptable was to remove the only means of coming up with strategy in a team based game.

    "Toxic" is an excuse that is used to show one's personal inability to handle the things said to them. Responding negatively and taking things to heart is a choice, believing someone wants you to actually have any of what they have said to you happen is a choice, just like the people who make the comments choose to say them.

    People need to choose to not let it get to them and to actually act mature enough to understand that people like that aren't worth their time.

    This is not something the development team can fix, whether they choose to re-add chat or keep it disabled. However, the inconveniences caused by such actions has made the mode worse for the vast majority of players who did not act this way or speak in such a manner. Punishing the majority for the actions of the few is simply unacceptable.
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    Last edited by Aniya_Estlihn; 01-27-2017 at 01:46 PM.

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    DukeGr's Avatar
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    Ralkon Kon'lai
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    Shiva
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    Marauder Lv 60
    The only thing this chat restriction does is give a significant edge to premade groups, even more so if they also have voice communication. In fact the difference is so massive i have seen wipes from premades happen in less than 30 seconds. Considering there's no gear difference since everyone is synced, this disparity comes from organization alone.

    Please put back normal chat to give PUG groups a chance against premades, PvP is supposed to be a group effort not a mindless blowout.
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    Hernais Vann
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DukeGr View Post
    The only thing this chat restriction does is give a significant edge to premade groups, even more so if they also have voice communication. In fact the difference is so massive i have seen wipes from premades happen in less than 30 seconds. Considering there's no gear difference since everyone is synced, this disparity comes from organization alone.

    Please put back normal chat to give PUG groups a chance against premades, PvP is supposed to be a group effort not a mindless blowout.
    i don't agree with the change but what is this complaint even? you either queue solo or in a group, against other solo queuers or against other grouped players. there's ton of issues but there's no situation in ranked feast where premades are beating up randoms. or are you not talking about ranked feast?

    also it's kind of disingenuous to say pvp is a 'group effort' and then, you know, complain when that group effort yields results that you don't like.
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    Tiramisu Macaron
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWARF_INTENSIFIES View Post
    i don't agree with the change but what is this complaint even? you either queue solo or in a group, against other solo queuers or against other grouped players. there's ton of issues but there's no situation in ranked feast where premades are beating up randoms. or are you not talking about ranked feast?

    also it's kind of disingenuous to say pvp is a 'group effort' and then, you know, complain when that group effort yields results that you don't like.
    The more tight knit community is using voice chat if they get into games together. It makes solo queue games super unfair tbh.
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    Nazreen Eby
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Note this is the opinion of someone that doesn't play much Feast usually.

    > Macros would take up my hotbar space which I don't have
    > as the poster before me said I cannot tell that Astro to switch on a sect or anyone else forgetting stance
    > Ressource callout like "bard drop your manasong on me!" are not possible
    > if I don't get stoneskins and buffs before the match all I can say is "Picking up Defensive supplies" which may or may not work
    > the "Stop xx" macros are pointless... do you do it yourself? Do you expect someone else to do it? Sleep? Stunlock? ...

    I did not play much before the chat change but that is NOT due to the chat, it was the lack of a trainingsmode people actually queued. If people really fear to get pointed out in a match for bad play (which may or may not be true) or worse my suggestion is a middle way between before and after the change.


    - Remove the macros that I cannot place on my hotbars anyway due to overflow of skills
    - enable the auto translate dictionary and sound effects, this should allow me to say (almost) everything that is needed to be said
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    Sweaty Eyelids
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 60
    please add the following macros that we need to improve our pvp experiance:

    sleeping healer
    sleeping tank
    sleeping melee
    sleeping range
    silance healer
    silance range
    Tank 4 stacks
    healer pick up medals
    range pick up medals
    melee pick up medals
    tank pick up medals
    Lbing healer
    lbing melee
    lbing range
    lbing tank
    cover on range
    cover on melee
    cover on healer
    stunning healer
    stunning range
    stunning tank
    stunning melee
    trick attack on healer
    trick attack on melee
    trick attack on range
    trick attack on tank
    full swing on healer
    full swing on tank
    full swing on range
    full swing on melee
    I need purify
    Im under attunement
    healer need mp
    enemy healer under attunement
    switch target to melee
    switch target to tank
    switch target to range

    im not sure if that will fill my entire screen.. im pretty sure other ppl need other things .. such ass astro asking for ppl to stay in his bubble or whm need ppl to stay in sacred prism
    But thats what they asked for us to improve our pvp gameplay
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    Yatsurugi's Avatar
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    Snow Moonfall
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I wish I had started PvP sooner. I tried it out for the first time thanks to the Garo event and loved it. Got the frontlines mount already.

    But then I tried to play the Feast and had no idea what was going on and couldn't ask my team for tips :/
    I really don't have space for more actions, had to get an MMO mouse just to fit my PvP abilities in.
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  8. #8
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    Tiramisu Macaron
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatsurugi View Post
    I wish I had started PvP sooner. I tried it out for the first time thanks to the Garo event and loved it. Got the frontlines mount already.

    But then I tried to play the Feast and had no idea what was going on and couldn't ask my team for tips :/
    I really don't have space for more actions, had to get an MMO mouse just to fit my PvP abilities in.
    Feel free to ask here.. there is also a PvP discord someone posted about somewhere in the pvp section. We are trying to help the new Garo players out. If you post in the #meta channel someone will try to give you tips! Us feast players are still trying to survive and support the community out of game because we are crippled to do so ingame.

    https://discord.gg/fJRQ66X
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    Last edited by TiramisuMacaron; 01-27-2017 at 06:21 PM. Reason: Added discord url

  9. #9
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    Sujaki Nhakal
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Well good job is making PvP even less Appealing for WoW Players what eventually wanna come over for PvP. Who ever thought of this restriction you get fired. EVERY Game with PvP have toxic Players and you havge to live with it or don't do PvP.
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  10. #10
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    Alindalia Finrandi
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 60
    Remove it in its entirety and restore chat.

    The intentions were good, but it was a terrible idea, a waste of time and effort, and should have never gotten off the drawing board. It sends a terrible message to the players you have now, and to anyone interested in the game.
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