The New Chat Restriction in The Feast

[natyusha]

stuff.

These 'Toxic' attitudes exist in every team based pvp game out there. IMO the difference in ffxiv is that people are often so much worse than their teammates that people cant help themselves when it comes to calling them out. I may not be the absolute best player around but I've certainly run into players who make me question how they even managed to log into the game. When you lose a match because of a player like that there is no way someone won't say something to them. But now that same player who is ruining the fun for 3 other people will get to sit in their happy little safe space losing games without even realizing how much they have to learn. There are some things that just have to be said like yelling at someone for picking up 10 medal stacks.

[Ultimatecalibur]

"Low on mp <se.1>"
"Adrenaline box <se.1>"
"LB'ing target <se.1>"
"Someone get medals <se.1>"

I suspect that every single one of those will be in the PvP Auto-translate library if not have its own default command.

The 15 icons shown with the announcement seem to be:

Row 1: Attack Tank/Healer/DpS
Row 2: Target/Focus Tank/Healer/DpS
Row 3: Bind Tank/Healer/DpS
Row 4: Target/Focus Box, Move Message, Thumbs Up Message
Row 5: Target/Focus Medals, Cheer fight, Beckon Message

I am against this change.

Communication in the feast is extremely important!
Things like alerting the tank that medals dropped
As a healer asking Party members to for a purify when a White Mage or Black Mage sleeps you.
Alerting your team when you are about to die as a healer, or when your low MP.
etc.

Also, They want more new players to get active in PVP and learn how to feast etc. Well this is going to completely alienate new players that are trying to learn, becuase older players are no longer going to be able to communicate or offer strategy advise etc.

But that is wrong... they may be removing the ability to type out messages in chat, but they are adding ways to send Auto-Translated messages that will share that information.

[FreeKingStefan]

But that is wrong... they may be removing the ability to type out messages in chat, but they are adding ways to send Auto-Translated messages that will share that information.

I'm not sure how you can say she is wrong when no information has been given as to what extent we will be able to communicate. If we are, in fact, ONLY able to use the pre-made macros which SE will provide for us, I can GUARANTEE you that there will be a vast amount of key commands/phrases missing. SE does not understand their own PvP in the slightest, so we can not expect them to create communication macros for things like purifying, box control, LB coordination, full swing debuffs, etc.

[TiramisuMacaron]

Without a sfx, people won't pay attention.

[Sorazure]

"I'm not sure how you can say she is wrong when no information has been given as to what extent we will be able to communicate." - "I can GUARANTEE you that there will be a vast amount of key commands/phrases missing."

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[FreeKingStefan]

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I don't typically respond to people like you, since you seem to be a troll more than someone actually wanting to discuss the topic. However, I understand where your questioning comes from. Your question actually reads: "Isn't it hypocritical to call him out on not having enough information to make his own assumption, and then turn around and assume something yourself?"

Here's your answer: I have played this game since the 2.0 relaunch, and with nearly every single feature that SE has ever added into this game, they have fallen victim to huge oversights in their design. On top of that general observation, SE also has very minimal understanding of their own game when played at high levels. This issue is exacerbated in PvP. As someone who has been playing PvP for a long time, and understands the finer points of communication needed to play certain jobs effectively, I worry that these will be missed by SE when creating their macros, as they, again, have proven time after time that they are not capable of covering all the bases.

I am hoping that this time, they listen to us without taking three years to realize what a terrible decision this is for the community as a whole. Censorship does not solve problems, it only creates different problems.

[Vejjiegirl]

But that is wrong... they may be removing the ability to type out messages in chat, but they are adding ways to send Auto-Translated messages that will share that information.

The messages will be tied to buttons that you will be able to put into your hotbar, basically the ones you listed from rows 1 to 5 in the live letter translation.

I highly doubt we will be getting more messages than the ones you have listed, and if we do they will be later on in future patches.

[Imika]

Macros are SO important in Feast. It's difficult to be aware of everything that goes on, and be able to react accordingly. Healers can't macro to indicate that they are stunlocked or need full swing purified off of them. Ranged DPS can't tell us when their burst is up. My main job, Paladin, is very reliant on CDs and communicating them to my healer, I always tell them remaining time on my Cover and Tetsudo so they can respond appropriately and we don't accidentally cover and attune at the same time.

I'd argue this pushes out newbies even more, they will lose and no one will tell them what went wrong.

[Kai_Lee]

I don't know how players using controllers going to deal with adding more macros. Its hard enough with all the pvp abilities.