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    TiramisuMacaron's Avatar
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    Tiramisu Macaron
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by P4X0R10N View Post

    I am. This change is awesome. Maybe I can finally convince an fc mate to pvp now that she won't have to put up with all the bs that healers sometimes get
    Step 1) press combat log
    Step 2) oh wait, there isn't one... She successfully became blind to chat.

    They are implementing something people can already do, except they are forcing it on people who don't want to.
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    Man Dudez
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    Exodus
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    Armorer Lv 90
    Seeing the quick chat macros made me think this will just end up like rocket league like you are saying. People will just spam obvious obvious trolls 100x which will be worse than any current issues with free chat because it will flood out anything that could possibly be useful information to your team. And they can't get banned for it sense it's quick chat messages put in by SE themselves. We'll see plenty of unique combinations with these macros made, which unless you are a completely oblivious person you will realize it's an insult aimed at you. I guarantee that every time someone dies that shouldn't have they will get bombarded with "nice job" and every team that loses a match they should not have will get spammed with "good match" until they leave. So ya, enjoy your new "harassment free" feast which will have some form of harassment in 50%+ of matches now compared to maybe 5% at best before.
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Just 2 days ago, I go into an 8v8 match, and someone new there speaks up and says they're new. Then asks for advice. I was already typing some general tips based on my experience as he asked, and just when he thought no one would answer, I gave him my quick rundown. I specifically told them to be ready to switch to any targets half/near dead, and to prioritize attacking anyone with 10 stacks of medals, which I noted I would mark with an X. . . It was a shaky start, but we won the match, and not only was that player grateful, I continue to see them in 8v8s now.

    Under this new system, that will no longer happen at all. Anyone new is going to show up with questions on what to do or how to do it, and not only will I not be able to answer, they won't even be able to ask. THIS is the bigger picture and terrible downside to this "fix" that was pushed on us without even acknowledging our feedback or even explaining why. Now, new people are either going to have to go out of their way to find guides elsewhere before even trying (which isn't a bad idea, but it was fine when it was simply an option), or go in entirely blind, and not be able to ask any questions while there.

    My time issues aside, I said (elsewhere) before that if this change was pushed and without any acknowledgement or reason why, then by way of protest, I would not be participating in Season 4, and I fully intend to be a man of my word. I did not ask for this change, did not want it, and it directly impacts my ability to actually try to be a mentor to other players interested in trying it out and giving them guidance or answering questions to help them achieve victory.

    This was a big step in the wrong direction for the Feast, and I cannot and will not show my support for it.
    (4)
    Last edited by ThirdChild_ZKI; 01-17-2017 at 11:49 AM.

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    Marshal Renew
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    I seen more toxicity doing Weeping City than I had in the Feast's last 2 seasons. The system should be used to punish people who get reported a lot. There are legit nice people who PvP (see Lace) who try and help out new comers. This is going to make his days a little easier in one way, but at the same time the quality of the games will be worsened because he couldn't help.

    As per the people with over the top anxiety, how do they get around at all in the game? The players who are easily triggered should take it upon themselves and hide all chat channels aside from their safe spaces.
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    Last edited by Cleanse; 01-17-2017 at 02:35 PM.

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    Nice Job!
    Nice Job!
    Nice Job!
    Nice Job!
    Nice Job!
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    Lola Milila
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    How is it? haven't done any ranked today
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    Violet Flower
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by KfLeX View Post
    How is it? haven't done any ranked today
    I did around twently 8vs8 and it's a total disaster.
    Tanks taking def buff and in tanking stance the whole match but not picking up any medals.
    Healers in some lv1 glamour gear because they forgot to change and you don't know how to tell them.
    Nobody attacks 10 stacks players even when they are marked with big white '1'.
    I won 70-80% so I don't really complain, but that was a freakshow.
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    Man Dudez
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    I did around twently 8vs8 and it's a total disaster.
    Tanks taking def buff and in tanking stance the whole match but not picking up any medals.
    Healers in some lv1 glamour gear because they forgot to change and you don't know how to tell them.
    Nobody attacks 10 stacks players even when they are marked with big white '1'.
    I won 70-80% so I don't really complain, but that was a freakshow.
    I had an AST take an ATK buff. People mark the tanks with no stacks as target to attack #1 and keep it on all match. People not knowing that you have to pick up metals to win and by the time you hit the chat macro they disappear. And plenty of lopsided 8v8 matches. I had one match even with 0 healers and no one switched (or I'm assuming know that they can swap classes at the start) because guess what...WE CAN'T TELL THEM.
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mandudez View Post
    I had an AST take an ATK buff. People mark the tanks with no stacks as target to attack #1 and keep it on all match. People not knowing that you have to pick up metals to win and by the time you hit the chat macro they disappear. And plenty of lopsided 8v8 matches. I had one match even with 0 healers and no one switched (or I'm assuming know that they can swap classes at the start) because guess what...WE CAN'T TELL THEM.
    This. THIS is what we were trying to tell you would happen, SE.

    You have made the Feast absolute chaos. Not toxic players, not new players. YOU DID THIS.
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    Adam Zoldyck
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    Brynhildr
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    Miner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    Tanks taking def buff and in tanking stance the whole match but not picking up any medals.
    Actually... I have taken the def buff a few times in the thing we call 8v8 as a tank. Now this was only after breaking the box, running away, seeing that no one took the kit, running back to the area, jumping up and down, waited, waited some more, took the kit. (One time both kits were sitting there...)

    On primal at least, 8v8 seems to be, people que, hope to rng that they get people to carry them to a win (or they do not have title yet, they just want wolf marks so a fast lost is great for them), if not, lose, re-que. Do it again.

    And really, the def kit is not much of a waste on me, I have ever need to switch to tank stance and self heal as much as yesterdays matches, even with no stacks or 1 stack I ended up being targeted so often. I was breaking 70K in heals as a WAR...
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