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  1. #1
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    FreeKingStefan's Avatar
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    King Stefan
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 70

    The New Chat Restriction in The Feast

    Hi all, so for those of you who haven't heard,during the most recent live letter,Yoshi P revealed that they will be restricting chat while on The Feast. You will no be able to say anything at all unless it's utilizing the auto translate feature. So let me just say, on behalf of the majority of the PvP community on Aether Data Center...

    This is possibly one of the worst decisions SE could EVER make in regards to PvP


    This is a team based game mode, and communication is key. They boast that there will be new macros added, but to what extent will they cover? SE, you need to understand that we, as the players, need to communicate specific things at specific time. Certain people may need to get medals, boxes may be spawning soon and you need to warn your team, you may be out of MP and need a BRD/MCH to assist, you may need to tell your team to get mid, get to base, push forward, fall back. You may need to coordinate with your team to burst down a target while CC'ing another. That target may change during the match. Communication is absolutely crucial in team based PvP, so removing that will make the Solo Queue gaming experience absolutely worse than it is now.

    You may think this will put a bar on toxicity, and that players will finally reach a point where they are not flaming each other, but here's the thing...Censorship does not work in this world. Players will simply send tells after the game to talk ill towards their teammates that messed up or were not skilled. They will make alts on those players realms simply to express their disdain. This is what used to happen in past MMO's which didn't have in-match chat during PvP. Even through this censorship, people -will- get flamed, people -will- get told they suck. Taking away the player's ability to speak in one forum only makes the situation worse, as the emotion they are feeling will build up and carry outside of the match, instead of it being handled in the short match time during the game, and then being wiped clean as the next match comes around.

    My proposed alternative solution:

    Keep this "feature" and only apply it to those that are to receive punishment for their toxicity. This way, there is justified punishment for those people, as the previous punishment (permanent bans) is extremely harsh given the context of the situation. The goal would then be for them to realize that communication is key to success, as they will have a difficult time playing in The Feast without being able to communicate with their team.
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    Last edited by FreeKingStefan; 11-26-2016 at 02:30 AM.

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    Genaxx's Avatar
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    Raiden
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    Bard Lv 90
    Pretty poor choice in my opinion. I've seen worse in shouts. what next? Remove global chat?
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    Last edited by Genaxx; 11-26-2016 at 07:57 PM.

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    Cleanse's Avatar
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    Marshal Renew
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Instead of banning everyone from chatting, mute those who are toxic for a time like they do in league. Or just leave it be... Communication is too important.
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    Praesul Presul
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 100
    The gap between the average and great player will now widen even more. Before, players could communicate and plan for the match ahead, so even a newer or mediocre player could help. With that option removed, newer players will be left even more clueless than before and get steamrolled even harder.
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    Excalibur
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    Did I miss the new map being called North Korea?

    Jokes assize, on behalf of Primal, the majority of players I know are outraged by this as well.

    This is the beginning of the end for feast if this goes through. If they want to do this, they need to take away rankings. The class imbalance a change like this creates is ludicrous.

    Time to start playing monk.
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    Last edited by TiramisuMacaron; 11-25-2016 at 10:22 PM.

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    SE's thought process is truly genius.

    They noticed ranked leads to increased toxicity, since Frontline is unaffected and they didn't try this sooner when Wolves Den was a thing.
    Instead of them admitting ranked was a mistake, they go and mute everyone to prevent toxicity.

    I'm damn sure they'll disable emotes in the Feast next, because angry people will resort to /slap next >_>
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    Chiming in just to state my disapproval as well. I'm sure just about everyone here has lost their temper in chat during Feast but this is doing so much more damage than it heals. The Matchmaking already creates heavily imbalanced games where players with the skill level of a Bronze/Silver rank are being matched as Gold/Platinums... removing any complex way to communicate with your teammates is just going to make the games that much more imbalanced, noncompetitive, and overall unfun.
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    Ange Vie
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    Please do not remove chat in Feast! A lot of good can come out of chat: advice, strategy, etc. It is not all bad. Find another way to handle those that are being hostile instead of breaking an important part of a team based game. This is a very disappointing move.
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    ^^^^^^^^^^ Ange said please too.
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    Eureka Evergarden
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AngeVie View Post
    Please do not remove chat in Feast! A lot of good can come out of chat: advice, strategy, etc. It is not all bad. Find another way to handle those that are being hostile instead of breaking an important part of a team based game. This is a very disappointing move.
    100% correct here.
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    My life while tanking is an existential hell from which there is no escape.

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