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    Quote Originally Posted by Lego3400 View Post
    We also have what appears to be a Half Hyur half Roe hybrid as well in the MSQ, one of the returning minor Scions we see in the MSQ introduces himself has a "Halfbreed"
    I thought when he (Arenvald) said that he was just referring to a mixed Hyurian heritage. I didn't read it as Arenvald being anything other than a Hyurian Highlander. It was quick and I might have glossed over the text but that was my take.

    That said, I found it odd that he would bother to identify as half Ala Mhigan as though it where something people should be on notice about. Maybe something was lost in translation? Half-breed has negative connotations in English but maybe the Japanese transcript was held in a different light.

    Oh wait, here it is - he is half Garlean with his mother being Ala Mhigan. Considering standard Garlean "policies" towards civilian populations I think it a small chance that the union between his parents was a.... happy one:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ean-half-breed

    I can see now why he would broach the matter in a negative manner... Truly FF14 does have it's dark moment amidst its lighter tones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyran-Varlsen View Post
    Oh wait, here it is - he is half Garlean with his mother being Ala Mhigan. Considering standard Garlean "policies" towards civilian populations I think it a small chance that the union between his parents was a.... happy one:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ean-half-breed
    See, this implication bothers me because Arenvald seems to have the surname Lentius, and if that's not Garlean I'll eat my circlet. I wouldn't even think of questioning it if not for that, but it seems VERY unlikely that a Garlean soldier would go to the trouble of marrying the mother if she was just some random local he assaulted, and even less that the mother would choose to so blatantly identify the man who abused her by giving the bastard his name, since that would not only be traumatic for her, but likely invite reprisal from the father.

    This leaves me with a few possibilities:
    1. Lentius is another 'Bastard surname' like Greystone, perhaps specifically denoting bastards of Garlean soldiers.
    2. Lentius is actually 100% an Ala Mighan name, even though it sounds very Garlean.
    3. Something was lost in translation here.
    4. His parents were legally married for some reason, though I suppose there could still be reasons the relationship wasn't happy/consensual?

    Maybe it's just me, but I'd find a love story between a Garlean soldier and one of the locals infinitely more interesting than yet another throwaway reference to how the horrible Garlean soldiers are abusing the womenfolk again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukha View Post
    1. Lentius is another 'Bastard surname' like Greystone, perhaps specifically denoting bastards of Garlean soldiers.
    2. Lentius is actually 100% an Ala Mighan name, even though it sounds very Garlean.
    3. Something was lost in translation here.
    4. His parents were legally married for some reason, though I suppose there could still be reasons the relationship wasn't happy/consensual?

    Maybe it's just me, but I'd find a love story between a Garlean soldier and one of the locals infinitely more interesting than yet another throwaway reference to how the horrible Garlean soldiers are abusing the womenfolk again.
    5. His mother did not choose his surname. She may have died at childbirth/a short while after.
    6. His father learned that he had a son and for some reason wanted to get custody over him.
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