Objection to the new adjustment for PGL, they gonna make this class useless in PT.

[Sylkis]

Defensive tank >>>> Offensive tank
PLD/GLA MRD/WAR PGL/MNK

if pgl can survive tanking (depends on mob/skill of player) , then pgl will be a better tank than mrd

people don't take pgl as tank for ifrit because he spams a frontal cone attack that can't be evaded with featherfoot/diversion.

[Firon]

DOOOOOOMMMMMM GLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM

[Betelgeuzah]

Dark Matter ruined the game.

And now it'll happen AGAIN

Non-chocobo mounts, now that will be the final nail in the nail in the coffin.

At least until IMMERSION BREAKING non FINAL FANTASY TRADITION FEELING jumping.

[AmyRae]

At least until IMMERSION BREAKING non FINAL FANTASY TRADITION FEELING jumping.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

thread meter already ruined the game. HURR DURR !

[Renshi]

Yoshida Team has a guy which likes Pugilist very much, and he wishes for Pugilist to be the badass.
We didn't try 1.20 out yet, so wait your time before judging spaghetti you've never cooked.

[Wevlum]

im not a tank but your actually wrong.
THM/BLM does not have any debuffs and yes MRD is a second rate DD lol i can vouch for those two at least

if your not top DD then your second rate... no?

Second rate DD doesn't mean second place DD. Second rate DD implies you are inadequette at performing the role e.g. a second rate performer is someone who performs poorly not someone who came second place in a performing competition.
If you are actually using the term second rate correctly though and you stand by your observation you're suggesting MRD and PGL are going to be less powerful than LNC without actually seeing the numbers involved.

Also THM/BLM do have debuffs actually;
THM action 3; Deals ice damage to target. Chance to inflict Heavy.
THM action 4; Deals ice damage to all enemies within range. Chance to inflict Bind.
THM action 9; Deals lightning damage to target. Chance to inflict Stun.
BLM action 2; Puts all enemies within range of the target to sleep.
BLM action 3; Deals fire damage to all enemies within range. Chance to inflict DoT effect.
And lastly kind of but not really a debuff, BLM action 4; Deals ice damage to target and reduces enmity.

Those look like debuffs to me.

[Alise]

You didn't need GLA for Buffalo (tanked him on my PGL)
You didn't need THM for Dodore (tanked him on my PGL)
You didn't need even 3 ARCs for Batraal (none of my groups went above 3, and that's when I changed over to ARC)
You don't need more than 3 LNCs for Ifrit (none of my groups have gone above 3, and I'm running PGL again)
You don't need a full party of MRD and CNJ to farm keys, either (every group I've seen has had other classes)

No single class was ever "needed" until CNJ became the only real healer.

Okay, should I change the word "need" into "demand"?
That is what community want, and that is the most effective way.

Although the last part, a group of MRD is really need in order to win SH Amajaa gold chest, and Natalan gold chest with one PT, unless you could prove me otherwise, (with vid)

MMO community demand :"easiest to win", "fastest to gain", and "least to share".
Current PGL doesn't bring any of these. only waste spot in PT.

[Akuun]

You should put a head up "Only PGL R50 vote please"
because I can see that everybody who vote disagree in this thread clearly not plan to play PGL, or not like PGl to begin with.

Seriously.any PGL fan would not like this change at all.

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA
wait wait, let me hahahahahahahhahahaha
you're trying to tell me that only 17 level 50 PGL that actually play the class agree, and that everyone else that disagreed (45 and counting) must all be noobs or people that came in and voted but don't play the class?

The only thing sillier than that statement is that someone actually agreed with you. Though it could have been my friend, he likes to support the losing side lol.

[Sojiro]

As long as they make elemental weaknesses more apparent, Pugilist/Monk sounds like it'll be a great, fast elemental melee attacker.

Thats what i'm banking on as well. It sounds like we can get in there and do some real bursty elemental damage, I am concerned how MP management will go, but I guess we'll see.