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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    In response to this, I shall simply quote what I posted earlier that you didn't seem to read.
    How much do you actually play this game? Since last year Oct 2010, PGL never once be needed. No matter in small content or big content.

    "Hey, BUffalo hunting PT, one spot for GLA please" (back in December)
    "Dodore small hunting group, we need THM" (could even solo, back in March)
    "Into the Dark, we still need 3-4 more ARC please" (back in June)
    "Ifrit PT, any LNC wanna join? 4-5 spots" (now)
    "Stronghold key farming PT, please MRD and CNJ only" (now)

    Yes, every classes except PGL..
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    Last edited by Alise; 11-22-2011 at 06:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alise View Post
    How much do you actually play this game? Since last year Oct 2010, PGL never once be needed. No matter in small content or big content.

    "Hey, BUffalo hunting PT, one spot for GLA please" (back in December)
    "Dodore small hunting group, we need THM" (could even solo, back in March)
    "Into the Dark, we still need 3-4 more ARC please" (back in June)
    "Ifrit PT, any LNC wanna join? 4-5 spots" (now)
    "Stronghold key farming PT, please MRD and CNJ only" (now)

    Yes, every classes except PGL..
    You didn't need GLA for Buffalo (tanked him on my PGL)
    You didn't need THM for Dodore (tanked him on my PGL)
    You didn't need even 3 ARCs for Batraal (none of my groups went above 3, and that's when I changed over to ARC)
    You don't need more than 3 LNCs for Ifrit (none of my groups have gone above 3, and I'm running PGL again)
    You don't need a full party of MRD and CNJ to farm keys, either (every group I've seen has had other classes)

    No single class was ever "needed" until CNJ became the only real healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    You didn't need GLA for Buffalo (tanked him on my PGL)
    You didn't need THM for Dodore (tanked him on my PGL)
    You didn't need even 3 ARCs for Batraal (none of my groups went above 3, and that's when I changed over to ARC)
    You don't need more than 3 LNCs for Ifrit (none of my groups have gone above 3, and I'm running PGL again)
    You don't need a full party of MRD and CNJ to farm keys, either (every group I've seen has had other classes)

    No single class was ever "needed" until CNJ became the only real healer.
    Okay, should I change the word "need" into "demand"?
    That is what community want, and that is the most effective way.

    Although the last part, a group of MRD is really need in order to win SH Amajaa gold chest, and Natalan gold chest with one PT, unless you could prove me otherwise, (with vid)

    MMO community demand :"easiest to win", "fastest to gain", and "least to share".
    Current PGL doesn't bring any of these. only waste spot in PT.

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    Last edited by Alise; 11-22-2011 at 11:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alise View Post
    Okay, should I change the word "need" into "demand"?
    That is what community want, and that is the most effective way.

    Although the last part, a group of MRD is really need in order to win SH Amajaa gold chest, and Natalan gold chest with one PT, unless you could prove me otherwise, (with vid)

    MMO community demand :"easiest to win", "fastest to gain", and "least to share".
    Current PGL doesn't bring any of these. only waste spot in PT.

    Really, you need a new LS or a new group of friends who are more flexible.

    It's not the fault of the class if you don't have a group that allows you to make it useful. Our shell, which is a social shell by the way, no endgame focus, did Dodore on a whim. We had two PGL in the group, and I'm glad we did. While holding the main NM on GLA, the PGLs were tanking the lesser minions so the LNC and mages could do the damage and healing.

    Could we have replaced the PGLs with MRDs? Sure.
    Could we have replaced the PGLs with LNCs? Probably.
    Did we? No. PGL is more than capable and we're a part of a group that allows flexibility. In fact, I'm GLAD we had the PGLs there because they were doing some very good evasion tanking.

    It's not the class that is the problem.
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