Would you improve if the content required it?

[Antonio_Xul]

Yes I would like to improve, but I am turned off to raiding not, because it's hard, but because of the uppity d'bags that swarm to it and talk crap to people who are trying to learn it. People learn by making mistakes, these types of "hardcore" will have none of it. I watch videos to prepare, but you don't learn really until you're in it and fail here and there.

In summary, I like difficult content, but dislike the attitude of the people that run them.

[Nuinn]

Seeing how disinterested I am in anything (Savage), think it's fair to say I would put in the effort but not really make myself sweat. At this point in life I know I'm capable of performing extremely well but, I just don't really care to focus that hard, especially during business days. The rewards from our current hard(est) content are not worth it to me and I've conquered many a difficult game in all these years that I'm just kinda "meh" about mastering a game. Voted no.

[Gravton]

No not really. I raided during the first and second coils. It lead to fighting over positions, loot, and DPS. Running the same boss over and over and considering it progress if we wiped a little later than normal. I don't raid now because I don't find that kind of play fun. I would probably just go and do/play something else.

[Frowny]

For sure. I just started getting into Savage and am quickly learning how to optimize my cooldowns. The content asked for more from me, so I'm delivering.

To add onto the WC tangent: this is very true. The raid itself is easy, but you have those who just refuse to learn for some reason. There's a fine line between playing for fun/relaxation and just mashing keys for no apparent reason.

[Kaitoo]

Yes, if i intressted in the content and/or reward


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also 100 % if is it somekind of group content, i not such an egoist that im going to waste the time of other people because im entitled or something like that

[bounddreamer]

I did. I had to. I wanted to start clearing extreme and 8-man raid content, so I started researching my job, rotations, optimal skills, watching videos. I changed jobs to something that is a better fit. Did old extreme content and learned a lot. I started up a raiding static and we sucked a lot. We got better. We got some clears. I changed FCs when that static fell apart, found a new group, and I've been progression raiding ever since.

[Sagittarian]

Seeing how disinterested I am in anything (Savage), think it's fair to say I would put in the effort but not really make myself sweat. At this point in life I know I'm capable of performing extremely well but, I just don't really care to focus that hard, especially during business days. The rewards from our current hard(est) content are not worth it to me and I've conquered many a difficult game in all these years that I'm just kinda "meh" about mastering a game. Voted no.

Basically that. Real life presents enough challenges that I don't feel the need to prove myself. I play games to relax. If I find that the amount of effort required is greater than the enjoyment gained then I am no longer "relaxing" and the activity is counter-productive. Also I prefer puzzle games over twitch games so I am more likely to put effort into something that requires thought over something that requires reflexes.

[ErryK]

I do as much content as I can. I feel content that is "difficult" is fine for me to do and grind. However content that is tedious, and requires over thousands of attempts/entries/wins... is just ridiculous. I'll either do the content over time at that point and reap the rewards much later than I would if I forced myself to do that content in a matter of minutes.

So yeah, I will better myself if the content demands it, but I won't "better" myself if the content is dull and long.

[Kaitoo]

I do as much content as I can. I feel content that is "difficult" is fine for me to do and grind. However content that is tedious, and requires over thousands of attempts/entries/wins... is just ridiculous. I'll either do the content over time at that point and reap the rewards much later than I would if I forced myself to do that content in a matter of minutes.

So yeah, I will better myself if the content demands it, but I won't "better" myself if the content is dull and long.

thats funny because the timesink content exist largerly because people want the best ilvl things but dont want to do the harder content

[Jim_Berry]

I simply mean if you faced a challenge, would you get better or leave it alone?

Most of my challenge comes from the community. Let me give you an example:

I never completed Gordias because I was a PLD and NIN. People wanted DRK and WAR, and we were flooded with NINs. Since 2.x I have been a VIT tank and never gave in the the STR thing that went on. That said, I improved on learning the content itself, but did NOT improve on optimizing my gear (I ignored STR stuff).

Another thing is WAR. I can't seem to grasp it from a DPS perspective; I'll play WAR as MT in Defiance. I don't think I'll improve in content with WAR regardless of the contents' changes.