Would you improve if the content required it?

[Antonio_Xul]

Yes I would like to improve, but I am turned off to raiding not, because it's hard, but because of the uppity d'bags that swarm to it and talk crap to people who are trying to learn it. People learn by making mistakes, these types of "hardcore" will have none of it. I watch videos to prepare, but you don't learn really until you're in it and fail here and there.

In summary, I like difficult content, but dislike the attitude of the people that run them.

[Jim_Berry]

Yes I would like to improve, but I am turned off to raiding not, because it's hard, but because of the uppity d'bags that swarm to it and talk crap to people who are trying to learn it. People learn by making mistakes, these types of "hardcore" will have none of it. I watch videos to prepare, but you don't learn really until you're in it and fail here and there.

In summary, I like difficult content, but dislike the attitude of the people that run them.

Yep, and fflogs makes it worse. People seem to use fflogs to bash others rather than saying, "Hey, Jim... On fflogs, I saw that your dps was only 1k. Did you know that you can do 1.2k if you used more Dark Arts before Souleater?" But nope. It's "Your DRK OT is crappy with only 800 dps."

[Frowny]

Yep, and fflogs makes it worse. People seem to use fflogs to bash others rather than saying, "Hey, Jim... On fflogs, I saw that your dps was only 1k. Did you know that you can do 1.2k if you used more Dark Arts before Souleater?" But nope. It's "Your DRK OT is crappy with only 800 dps."

Really? Everytime I queue for Savage my fflogs are never mentioned... and I KNOW I can do much better. The only time I see bashing is "hey, BLM/SMN we need more AoE". In my almost 2 years or so I've NEVER seen what you claimed happens nor have I heard about it beyond the usual "hey, you messed up your rotation".

And if all you guys get are uppity dbags... if this is PF then your servers are horrible. When I started Savage I got nothing but support and people trying to hook us rookies up.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Yes I would like to improve, but I am turned off to raiding not, because it's hard, but because of the uppity d'bags that swarm to it and talk crap to people who are trying to learn it. People learn by making mistakes, these types of "hardcore" will have none of it. I watch videos to prepare, but you don't learn really until you're in it and fail here and there.

In summary, I like difficult content, but dislike the attitude of the people that run them.

This is a tired misconception. Yes, there are jerk raiders, but there are plenty of awesome ones. On Balmung, we've started a whole Discord on gathering people who enjoy raiding to help network and I've come across a lot of pretty chill people. Don't let a few arseholes ruin it for you. The Creator is by far the most approachable raid content FFXIV's had in years. I highly recommend looking into it, be it on Zalera or another server if necessary.