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    Enur's Avatar
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    Ruruneji Seseneji
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    Would you improve if the content required it?

    http://www.strawpoll.me/11714129

    I wish to see the general consensus on improvement. Please do answer honestly.
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    Um... Yes? Hard content does require a greater level of competency from everyone in general.

    See: How the community reacted to Ozma.

    Unless you meant this in a different way, but this is a really vague and yet very straightforward question at the same time.
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    I simply mean if you faced a challenge, would you get better or leave it alone?

    I supposedly made it a straightforward question and i expect straightforward answers. Dont read too much into, just give your opinion on the question at hand.

    Im honestly excited to see the results. Will post them in 48 hours.
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    I have a fair feeling that while many would click 'yes,' very few would mean it. If main story dungeons and whatnot became something like The Weeping City of Mhach, especially during the first week, there'd be more of an outcry of rage than rising to meet the standards. Look at the Steps of Faith.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    isn't that logical?
    If you want to beat said content, you need to improve.
    Otherwise you're not going to beat it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    I have a fair feeling that while many would click 'yes,' very few would mean it. If main story dungeons and whatnot became something like The Weeping City of Mhach, especially during the first week, there'd be more of an outcry of rage than rising to meet the standards. Look at the Steps of Faith.
    I think this one nailed it. Steps of Faith was never a hard fight, but a lot of people were willing to invest more time in the forums to get the fight nerfed rather than talk to their teammates and get the fight down.

    Granted, I do believe that Story Mode content should be somewhat easy, but the community reaction back then was absolutely ridiculous.
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    Yes big time. It would make the game even more interesting than the way it is now.
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    Eimian E'da
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    Yes, I play for the challenge, which FF14 kind of lacks.
    Beating the current hardest content is what keeps me going (In all games).
    #StopTheNerfs
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    Yes, if I thought the content was worth doing for me.

    The first time I tried Mhach, it was hard. I wanted to improve so I could get better gear.
    I asked more veteran healers for advice. Took their advice and practiced and improved and got my gear.

    I wanted to clear Nidhogg extreme with my FC. It was my first unsynced extreme "primal" fight.
    Because I wanted to do it with my FC, I had to improve a lot. Eventually we cleared it.

    After 3.4, I wanted to become active in raiding. And I wanted better gear. I wanted a challenge.
    So I had to improve a lot. I decided to raid as a Ninja. I had to learn my rotations and practiced a lot on wooden dummies.
    At the time, clearing Alexander was worth it for me. I enjoy the new gear I have, but I have not cleared A12S and probably won't.


    Why? Simple answer. It isn't worth it for me anymore. My thinking has changed. 1 weapon (which will be obsolete soon), a mount (not interested in it), and body armor (ninja's isn't very good).
    I could improve to clear it, but it isn't worth the time or energy. Hours and hours of bad parties / unprepared people and buying so much food and potions is not worth a weapon, mount, and achievement.
    I also no longer have the patience to deal with people who come to "clear parties" without having enough practice first and get hit by every avoidable damage.

    In fact, this week I haven't even finished A11S because yesterday I got in groups with people who have "cleared" it, but still haven't learned the fight at all.
    Too many have been carried.

    What we need is not only challenging content, but challenging content worth doing.
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    No. I don't play FF XIV for the challenge. I enjoy FF XIV as a relaxing game, I play for the story, the exploration, the social aspect, etc.. . Back then when The Binding Coil of Bahamut was released for the first time, I did not even bother with it, I just ignored it. If the game was made to be a constant challenge, I would simply play something else.
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    Last edited by Chocolys; 11-23-2016 at 08:16 PM.

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