[Dev Request] - A Fourth Waymarker

[Alistaire]

Why only waymark D? Why not make it until Z, or make it number and ASCII symbol too?

Back to getting serious, realistically there's only a need for 4, quite a few fights now are designed with 4 gathering points in mind. You could make an argument for 8 points if people are really that bad at determining where the middle point between 2 markers would be, or if some people wanted each person in the party to have a specific spot, but considering they've said no to a 4th before if we can at least get them to budge on that we'll be fine enough.

[Eul]

Back to getting serious, realistically there's only a need for 4, quite a few fights now are designed with 4 gathering points in mind. You could make an argument for 8 points if people are really that bad at determining where the middle point between 2 markers would be, but considering they've said no to a 4th before if we can at least get them to budge on that we'll be fine enough.

In raid or extreme primal prespective, I agree for 4th waymark too. Things like A9S or Sophia EX is pretty in need.

[tymora]

If you design something and people don't use it or use it some other way, it is a design fail.
If the users request a new design based on how they use it and the designers don't do it, then it is a designer fail.

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[Brian_]

They should just give us the ability to draw on the field so that we can just sketch out the strategy.

Of course we'd also draw a bunch of penises everywhere.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Except Weeping City has been out for months now. Unless they're new, they should know what to do, and even then, it's not hard to say "hey, tank the add that spawns on that side when it comes up" or "stand with us if you're not the tank".

Yes and I still see tanks not picking up the adds or worse fighting over one while the two others are running wild when marks are not placed. It is very easy to ignore chat, but much harder to ignore the glowing circle with your party's letter over it.

To be perfectly honest, if you NEED to mark left then there are bigger issues to worry about. Helpful yes, but easily done without.

You would be surprised how many players run right when there are no marks.

[Yeol]

It wouldn't hurt

[Alistaire]

They should just give us the ability to draw on the field so that we can just sketch out the strategy.

Of course we'd also draw a bunch of penises everywhere.

You still need something as a marker that stays up, people get disoriented.

[ErikMynhier]

Would it be possible to add a "D" waymarker to the list? It seems like a lot of battle mechanics introduced in the 3.0 era, from Extreme Primals to Raids, would benefit from having an additional marker added to make coordination and strategy easier for executing certain battle phases.

Just a thought!

That's actually a great idea. A forth would help taking new people through things like Ravana Ex.

[Kazrah]

Yes and I still see tanks not picking up the adds or worse fighting over one while the two others are running wild when marks are not placed. It is very easy to ignore chat, but much harder to ignore the glowing circle with your party's letter over it.

And that's why you do chat BEFORE the fight starts. This is not rocket surgery, and if it feels like it is, maybe best to take a break.

Also, last I checked, this thread is for a fourth waymarker, not Weeping City horror stories. I understand that you have a semi-valid argument for using waymarkers in 24-payer raids, but please do not try to derail this thread, as that fourth waymarker is something that I believe we need given the the ongoing theme of fights designed to require it.

[Frowny]

You would be surprised how many players run right when there are no marks.

To put it bluntly, this is what happens when you make 95% of the content not require much thought. I'm not disagreeing with you, it is just irritating when something requires just a tiny bit of thought and people kick the ball into orbit. There's derping which we've all done, and there's being a liability.