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  1. #181
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    Claymore65's Avatar
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    Cress Valorblade
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Personally, I'm all for them adding one.

    While I personally enjoy the main story quest experience, not everyone does. There are many players who skip all cut-scenes and just try to rocket through the plot as quickly as they can. Why not just let them skip it entirely? Who exactly is benefiting from uninterested players being forced to wander back to the Waking Sands for the 100th time, only to teleport away and then skip more dialog? To be frank, I don't lose anything from other players not enjoying the story. I do, however, have something to lose from players getting bored and not queuing for high-level group content. If players want to skip most of the leveling/story, I say let them. They'll still have to level their way through Stormblood. Let the player enjoy what they want to enjoy.

    As much as I love the MSQ, it's also the bulk of the problem here. There are 346 ARR Main story quests (counting the patch content), in addition to 129 (currently, there will be more) Heavensward Main Story Quests to dig through, before getting into Stormblood. That is like being forced to play through two entire JRPGs worth of content before being allowed to access the game most players are enjoying. If my friend told me "Hey, play this game with me, but first beat two entire games", I probably wouldn't want to join in.To be frank, if we don't nip the issue in the bud, it will grow into a massive barrier for new players. For players interested in the Heavensward classes, it already is. Players don't like being told to play through 50 levels and 346 MSQs using a Job they don't like, just to access one they do. The lifeblood of any MMO is new players, and we need to make sure FFXIV stays accessible.

    So, while I personally wouldn't skip the MSQ myself, I think it should be an option for new and/or returning players. If those players just want to dig into Stormblood, let them. Let them enjoy the parts of the game they want to. If they decide, after watching whatever summary cutscene/introduction that they do want to experience the whole story, they can always just go back and build a new character.
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  2. #182
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    Delmontyb's Avatar
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    Brin Zalazar
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    So happy... been hoping we'd see something like this, looking forward to learning about the details.
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chessala View Post
    I am even more grateful that we have PotD and therefore a great way to avoid grouping with random potion users in DF to get our tomes.
    Sucks to be a new player in your world I guess.
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  4. #184
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    FinalWolf's Avatar
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    Rex Inferorum
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Whelp, time to run dungeons with friends only

    I don't even know if I will do the new 24 man raid in 4.0 now
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  5. #185
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    TheRealMadruck's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Firkmann Solksthalsyn
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 30
    I created a video on my opinion on a jump potion and please, the video I made is strictly my opinion as I did not make it to insult or degrade anyone. I just discuss my own times in other MMOs that have a similar system and how I felt when they were implemented into those game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aJyx1bXWJo Thank you for being respectful and take care
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    Last edited by TheRealMadruck; 12-17-2016 at 04:23 AM.
    I guess it's my fate as a Dark Knight. Soon, I won't even feel any remorse for my actions!-Cecil Harvey-FFIV DRK

  6. #186
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    Fyce's Avatar
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FinalWolf View Post
    Whelp, time to run dungeons with friends only

    I don't even know if I will do the new 24 man raid in 4.0 now
    Because going back and forth to the Waking Sands and feeding soup to random NPCs makes you a better player? Or maybe leveling your alt-jobs with FATEs or killing trash mobs in PotD?

    Come on, there's already bad players running dungeons today, and they are here to stay, jump potion or not.

    Besides, most players who are going to buy a jump are either returning players (to catch up), or joining MMORPG enthusiasts who already know their stuff (and maybe did research about how "good" is the start of FFXIV is).
    Completly new players will most likely hold off from buying a jump, unless they want to catch up with a friend... who will most likely teach them how to play anyway.

    So, really, the chances of seeing bazillions of neewbz swarming your DF roulettes is way lower that most people in this thread think. Compared to the benefit of getting a bigger playerbase, this concern is almost irrelevant.
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  7. #187
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    FinalWolf's Avatar
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    Rex Inferorum
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 70
    So the only solution was to make it worse? That makes no sense

    Should've added something like weekly trails for jobs that give out loot, tomestones and gil

    Oh well, it's too late now
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  8. #188
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    Nyghtmarerobu's Avatar
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    Liaysa Sineos
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    Exodus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore65 View Post
    snippity!!
    You have said everything I was thinking about this whole situation. Enjoy my like.
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  9. #189
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    lulunami's Avatar
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    Rurulu Namilu
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Doing the inane amount of fetch quests from 2.x does not improve player ability in raids so a jump potion is not a big deal.
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  10. #190
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    BlakeEarhart's Avatar
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    Character
    Sun Crowley
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    Jenova
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    My worry is that it'll fill the DF and PF with crap players. I'm okay with a story jump potion, but not a level jump potion. Takes away what makes Final Fantasy what it is.
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