Jump Potion...again

[Reynhart]

Although every damn single healer MSQ or class quests teaches you that you should do dps... still we got hundreds of hundreds people arguing and denying that this is the meta since the beginning.

Single player content...such a good way to judge what group content should be, sure. But hey, it would explain all those DPS that don't do positionals, tanks who can't hold aggro or BRD that think songs are useless...

There's more stuff locked past 50 and 60 than there is between 1-49, and 51-59, respectively.

But there will be less content between 60 and 70 than between 10 and 60.

[Zojha]

Single player content...such a good way to judge what group content should be, sure.

Implying group content is any better. Anyone with an ounce of common sense should be able to intuitively understand that overhealing isn't good and consequently start to wonder between cure casts whether doing absolutely nothing for extended periods of time despite a full resource pool is working as intended or whether there's something they should do in the meantime...

The fact that DPS happens to be the only useful thing there is to fill that gap is just the end of that thought process.

[Reynhart]

Implying group content is any better.

To understand what you need to do in a group...yes, actually it is. For example, it teaches young PLD that even though Riot Blade does more damage than Savage Blade, you shouldn't just focus on spamming it.

The fact that DPS happens to be the only useful thing there is to fill that gap is just the end of that thought process.

The meta goes far beyond a simple "If you're twiddling your thumbs, you might as well DPS"

Naturally, but all the content is 50, 60 and then 70. All the stuff between them is repeatable but more or less a one-time experience.

The thing is that if you reach each previous cap progressively, you'll probably want to try corresonding content at the same time as your continue leveling, and it will give you small increments to your character. If you start right at level 60 just to do the MSQ that will carry you to 70, you won't have any reason to do previous content. Now, when we started the game at 2.0, we had no problem to understand the "lack" of content in a very young game. Start the game after 4 years, and if you burn through the latest expansion because it's the only thing that would actually offer progress, you'll just feel ripped off by the game.

But as usual, if the player is interested in the current endgame, they'll go for the pot. There's nothing that can be said about that.

If you make the pot available, everybody will go for it.

[ErryK]

The thing is that if you reach each previous cap progressively, you'll probably want to try corresonding content at the same time as your continue leveling, and it will give you small increments to your character. If you start right at level 60 just to do the MSQ that will carry you to 70, you won't have any reason to do previous content. Now, when we started the game at 2.0, we had no problem to understand the "lack" of content in a very young game. Start the game after 4 years, and if you burn through the latest expansion because it's the only thing that would actually offer progress, you'll just feel ripped off by the game.

You say that as if it's the game's fault that you purchased the potion. The potion is there for those who wish to skip the story of 1-60, whether you want to do that and reap the consequences/rewards is up to the individual, not the game.

If you make the pot available, everybody will go for it.

I said that too, and then I got people on my back saying not everyone will go for it. But honestly, it depends on how it's priced. Too expensive and not many will go for it, too cheap and well... that's not a bad thing for SE since the sales will be through the roof.

[Reynhart]

The potion is there for those who wish to skip the story of 1-60, whether you want to do that and reap the consequences/rewards is up to the individual, not the game.

As if complainers would be honest enough to react that way

I said that too, and then I got people on my back saying not everyone will go for it.

Considering the mere idea of a jumping potion comes from "Oh, but new players won't be able to do endgame right away, and they might feel the pressure of having to burn quickly", I'm sure everyone who didn't already reach the end of 3.x when 4.0 starts will buy a potion. Especially if that can "skip" a month grinding your way to 60.

[ErryK]

As if complainers would be honest enough to react that way

Well, it's a double edged sword when it comes to jumping potions: one one hand, you have level 60s and loads of people playing the game, on the other hand, you have people who don't know their rotations/skills and people complaining about that. Which is why it's being taken into consideration but not 100% guaranteed to be in yet, and I kind of have to agree. But it does cut out the middleman: which is the arduously long EXP and MSQ sequence.

[ErryK]

But there will be less content between 60 and 70 than between 10 and 60.

Naturally, but all the content is 50, 60 and then 70. All the stuff between them is repeatable but more or less a one-time experience.

But as usual, if the player is interested in the current endgame, they'll go for the pot. There's nothing that can be said about that.