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  1. #221
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    Meeka19's Avatar
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    Salty Caramel
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    Twintania
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    Astrologian Lv 84
    Jandor's argument is that there's a certain irony to offering people to pay to not play the game.
    For many people those cutscenes, the exploration of the maps and the background created for their characters is the game.
    Therefore it's actually almost exactly the same thing to offer people raid clears for rl money. That's what he was poking fun at.
    The same way some people want easygoing content, the same way some people hate it and find it mind numbing. Well, at that rate if you tried to please everyone you'd offer skips for everything. That was the point.

    Personally I support the jump potion if they require people to do some dungeons from lower lvl ranges first because simply put it'll be a shock to them and completely unpleasant to be thrust directly into lvl 50 or 60 content without having gotten to use their skills in a lighter environment.
    While I'm perfectly fine with wipes due to people still looking at their skills/having joined less than half hour ago, I do not look forward to the idea that a lot of excited people will be yelled at for things they can't help.
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    Last edited by Meeka19; 12-17-2016 at 09:32 AM.
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  2. #222
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    Francia Alto
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    Seraph
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Did it show a time when this would be implemented?
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  3. #223
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    Moonlite's Avatar
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    This was supposed to be a vanity only shop, and buying vanity from it was supposed to help improve the game.
    Here we are over a year later with the same schedule for new content and roughly the same amount of content per patch, the promise that it would be vanity only is getting quietly ditched as well.

    This was never going to be a vanity only shop.



    The signs have been here since the beginning. It is only a matter of time before the cash shop has some sort of token you can get and "Gift" for use on said cash shop. The cash shop genie is out of the bottle and they decided to milk players all through HW's for retainers. They moved all seasonal gear to cash shop. They triple gouged for fan fest for minion. They link multiple in game items to peddle real life stuff.
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    Last edited by Moonlite; 12-17-2016 at 09:46 AM.

  4. #224
    Community Rep Zhexos's Avatar
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    Greetings,

    As the content from Yoshida's message is quite long and detailed, we've opted to start a new thread that will help us when gathering feedback. You can find the new thread here.
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    Last edited by Zhexos; 12-17-2016 at 09:47 AM. Reason: Added the URL.
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  5. #225
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Bismarck
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    I'm more focused on how changes benefits the end user. This is a bad move from a consumer PoV.



    This was supposed to be a vanity only shop, and buying vanity from it was supposed to help improve the game.
    Here we are over a year later with the same schedule for new content and roughly the same amount of content per patch, the promise that it would be vanity only is getting quietly ditched as well.

    Honestly, am I the crazy one here? I don't get it, why are people ok with this? It's not like other options don't exist...
    We are getting major Server infrastructure upgrades and then there was the EU datacenters, something Yoshi P mentioned were financed in a great part by cash shop earnings. We got those expensive hardware upgrades and no loss of content.
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  6. #226
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    Frowny's Avatar
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    Rai Dolabnha
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    Faerie
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Meeka19 View Post
    Personally I support the jump potion if they require people to do some dungeons from lower lvl ranges first because simply put it'll be a shock to them and completely unpleasant to be thrust directly into lvl 50 or 60 content without having gotten to use their skills in a lighter environment.
    While I'm perfectly fine with wipes due to people still looking at their skills/having joined less than half hour ago, I do not look forward to the idea that a lot of excited people will be yelled at for things they can't help.
    Perhaps some sort of instance or 2 they HAVE to do before being tossed into the wild?
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  7. #227
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    Evil Hippie
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 60
    I believe in earning your levels, therefore I am against a jump potion.
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  8. #228
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    Tor Kara
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 70
    After class level boost was introduced in another MMO that I played, the raid finder was basically unplayable. Expect the same to happen in this game.
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  9. #229
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    Gumbercules Thesecond
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    Hyperion
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    lol the raid finder was playable at some point? :P Since it came out it was ok ish for the week or 2 that actual raiders were milking it for gear patching followed by months of it being incredibly bad >.>

    In regards to the jump pot, i think its the lesser of two evils for bringing in new players/catching players up...but for the love of god please add like intermediate hall or something into said accounts progression. hell you can even make the Hall 1-4 player based were they are designed around 4 players and the game can que boosted players/npcs together to form parties. (for the sake of decent que times)
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    Last edited by Gumbercules; 12-20-2016 at 06:20 AM.

  10. #230
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    Rogue Fuki
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zhexos View Post
    Greetings,

    As the content from Yoshida's message is quite long and detailed, we've opted to start a new thread that will help us when gathering feedback. You can find the new thread here.
    Everyone move the conversation to this thread the Zhexos mentioned. We really do not need to threads with people talking about the same thing.
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