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    Anrui Mydia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
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    I agree that it's about the journey and not the destination and my very first time I played through 2.0 it was amazing to me because it told a solid story and had some memorable moments such as the first time you experienced the Primal battles. However I feel like I'm not alone with my critique that the base games story was a bit too bloated with fluff and fetch quests and SE should consider trimming the fat one day. Is it really necessary to run back and for between various towns and vesper bay for several Quests in a row just to deliver an item and/or talk to one npc? Stuff like that are where most peoples complaints lie.

    There was at least one patch of the 2.xx series (I can't recall the specific one) that was pretty much nothing but running back and forth talking to various npc's for the entire duration of the patch content.
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Voltres View Post
    Has any of you went through the MSQ from start to finish recently? It's a pain in the ass. The whole time you just want to get it done so you want to do the actual fun stuff.
    I've been through the ARR story on 4 characters and I still find it fun. >.>
    I do support jump potions for those that don't enjoy it though.
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    Marie Antoinette
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    Kujata
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    Conjurer Lv 76
    I was intially against the jump potion but yeah 2.0 story was horrible, I'm just gonna repeat what I said in other threads but delievering wine and cheese for some stupid banquet back and forth for 4-5 quests is not Final Fantasy, it's the worst part of the game and is in my top 10 worst video game experiences, even if there's context behind it I don't care, it wasn't fun, opinions are subjective but the titan questline is OBJECTIVELY not fun. If I wanted pointless filler I'd watch Naruto.
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    Final Fantasy XIV forums in a nutshell
    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    I stopped reading here. I really did. Can people stop asking for FF14 to be FF11 reborn. They tried that and look what happened.

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    Thyjiel S'jerah
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    Shiva
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    If they would simply remove sidequests and increase exp in the MSQ so you can simply "lvl through" without repairing earrings or mixing perfume or fetching fugly tea somewhere in the last corner of Coerthas, they would not need a jump potion and could still keep an immersive (not painful) MSQ path. Skippers will skip anyway.
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    You could level to 70 in one quest and you would still have to slog through the rest of the MSQ. Leveling is not the problem.
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    Dynamo Malevolti
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    Sargatanas
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    Its like this.

    I saw a commercial for God of War 3. I saw all the cool new stuff for it. It got me hype. I knew of God of war before, but I wasn't interested until I saw God of War 3. Now I want to play it.

    I just bought the game. I just got back home, and now I'm about to start playing.

    a message appears on my screen.

    "You must purchase and play through the other 2 console games, plus all the PSP games before you can play God of War 3"

    The next day I returned God of War 3.



    If SE doesn't find a way to get new players all the content they will be advertising in the coming months, and all the content all the current players are hype to play, it's going to isolate them.

    If they are forced to play through loads of old content that may take more than a month or 2 to finish, just to get to the content that actually made them want to buy the game in the first place, they aren't going to stick around. Guaranteed.
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    Nol Lac'nala
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    I buy FF7, insert disc 3, it tells me to insert disc 1, and I take it back to the store.
    Fixed, because this is what's actually happening.

    As much as I don't seem to be, I'm actually neutral. If you play well, I won't even care if you used a jump potion or not. But the fact that one side of this argument is subscribing to asinine circle logic and completely inaccurate metaphors...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NolLacnala View Post
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    But this actually isn't the case.

    All 3 discs of FF7 are advertised as one game. So when the game came out, all the content that was in the commercials, in the magazine articles, everything that would make them excited to play is all together. However in this case, the main thing that will be advertised to new players for the upcoming expansion is going to be solely about the expansion. The new level cap, the new jobs, the new areas and dungeons, it will all be about Stormblood. Its just like how Heavensward was introduced. Everything was centered around it.

    So when we start to see commercials, when review videos and articles are posted, when they join the forums and the reddit pages, all they will see is stormblood. This will even be people who already knew the game existed, but was never intrigued to actually play. Stormblood just may be what they needed to give it a shot. But when they finally do....
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    Quote Originally Posted by NolLacnala View Post
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    They'll realize they'll have to play through all the old content that was NOT outright shown to them. They'll have to pay those subscription fees for those months it will take to get through it before they can even touch what was advertised to them on top of that. that's NOT the same thing, and it can most definitely be a deterrent from getting new players to try it out AND to stay.


    I understand the game is all about story, story, the lore, and more story, and I'm proud of that. But if its going to a hindrance rather than a luxury, used as a large gate to keep from the content that they ACTUALLY are interested in for weeks, then why should any of these people even care about it? That's all i'm saying.

    Dont let the traditions of this game become its downfall. As Yoshi-P said himself, if this game isn't able to attract new players, the player base will stabilize, and then start a decline. I don't want that. I don't know anyone who would.
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    Sasaki Haise
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    Diabolos
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Yeah, I'm totally against people who simply rush the whole game... But not everybody has time to lvl jobs from zero... so I understand why they buy it... And yeah, some are also too lazy, some prefer the end game asap, etc...
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