Jump Potion...again

[Sir_Swallow]

Swallow there's a quest skip potion as well. It sets you to have all content done.

WTH

That I cannot get behind.

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In addition:

Well of coure not the current expansion. Swallow was complaining that it would still result in you having to do all the story quests to catch up. I'm saying it sets you to the job level AND quest completion rate to get started on stormblood right away.

I wasn't complaining per se, I was saying that I did not see either much harm or much need for a jump potion unless you could skip MSQ. I don't want them to make the MAIN part of the game optional, but I see no problem with eliminating grinding. Which, like I said, I think they could do with an xp re-balance.

[Titor]

I don't want them to make the MAIN part of the game optional

The "MAIN" part of the game is completely subjective to the player.

The "MAIN" part of the game for me is PvP. It's pretty much what I play for and what I do. Is it for you? Probably not, since you sort of implied that the story/MSQ was.

[Sir_Swallow]

Well of coure not the current expansion. Swallow was complaining that it would still result in you having to do all the story quests to catch up. I'm saying it sets you to the job level AND quest completion rate to get started on stormblood right away.

The "MAIN" part of the game is completely subjective to the player.

The "MAIN" part of the game for me is PvP. It's pretty much what I play for and what I do. Is it for you? Probably not, since you sort of implied that the story/MSQ was.

Perhaps I should say the MAJORITY or the BULK of the content instead. I personally might actually be a dungeons/raiding kind of guy...I mean, when I get to the raids.

[Titor]

Perhaps I should say the MAJORITY or the BULK of the content instead. I personally might actually be a dungeons/raiding kind of guy...I mean, when I get to the raids.

I don't see a problem with skipping a majority of the content if someone finds it boring. Me, I love PvP, I have a sub I pay monthly, that's more money for SE. I think if I was just coming in now and was gated behind 2.0 and 3.0 before I could get to PvP, I'd probably lose interest with how much content I'd have to go through before even trying PvP. This is similar for people who want to end game raid. In the end, subs matter, whether or not they're subbed for story, raiding, pvp, crafting, rp, or whatever. More accessibility to things that can get people hooked on the game is better.

[Gumbercules]

think my gripe with the jump potion is that it would allow access to RMT to jump to later portions of the game. That being said though, it could result in newer players having a harder time choosing to jump in, though imo in HW the main reason for this was the gating of the new jobs behind 2.5 not so much the story. A new player that sees the new job and decides they wanna play that will be more or less ok with hitting lvl 30 for it, but having to hit 50 + 10-20 ish hours of questing on top of that to play an "advertised" job might bee too much. IMO if they added a "route" into Ishgard that a person can access at lvl 30 to get to the job quests and continued to use this system for the 4.0 jobs it might prove to be enough, since a player could then still continue to push the content that is already there with the Job they actually wanna play. This will be even more beneficial come 4.0 and the revamp to the xclass system.

[FinaSel]

I thought I might come back to the game someday, but if jump potions are added...goodbye for good.

It's not a type of game I would enjoy playing anymore.
It's a trade off I guess. Get some new players, make money, lose some current players, lose some money.

I hope they can turn a profit and the game can keep going though.

[Daranion]

Oh yeah that reminds me. XP IS getting rebalanced to make leveling even faster to facilitate leveling without the need for a jump potion. Way more EXP to push people into stormblood

[ToniRomo]

I don't see an issue with these. In WoW everyone freaked out when they got added, then it ended up not being a big deal. The first couple days were a bit rough with a large amount of people boosting at the same time, but after that it was not noticable.

[Claymore65]

Personally, I'm all for them adding one.

While I personally enjoy the main story quest experience, not everyone does. There are many players who skip all cut-scenes and just try to rocket through the plot as quickly as they can. Why not just let them skip it entirely? Who exactly is benefiting from uninterested players being forced to wander back to the Waking Sands for the 100th time, only to teleport away and then skip more dialog? To be frank, I don't lose anything from other players not enjoying the story. I do, however, have something to lose from players getting bored and not queuing for high-level group content. If players want to skip most of the leveling/story, I say let them. They'll still have to level their way through Stormblood. Let the player enjoy what they want to enjoy.

As much as I love the MSQ, it's also the bulk of the problem here. There are 346 ARR Main story quests (counting the patch content), in addition to 129 (currently, there will be more) Heavensward Main Story Quests to dig through, before getting into Stormblood. That is like being forced to play through two entire JRPGs worth of content before being allowed to access the game most players are enjoying. If my friend told me "Hey, play this game with me, but first beat two entire games", I probably wouldn't want to join in.To be frank, if we don't nip the issue in the bud, it will grow into a massive barrier for new players. For players interested in the Heavensward classes, it already is. Players don't like being told to play through 50 levels and 346 MSQs using a Job they don't like, just to access one they do. The lifeblood of any MMO is new players, and we need to make sure FFXIV stays accessible.

So, while I personally wouldn't skip the MSQ myself, I think it should be an option for new and/or returning players. If those players just want to dig into Stormblood, let them. Let them enjoy the parts of the game they want to. If they decide, after watching whatever summary cutscene/introduction that they do want to experience the whole story, they can always just go back and build a new character.

[Nyghtmarerobu]

snippity!!

You have said everything I was thinking about this whole situation. Enjoy my like.