Problems with DRK - Advice needed please!

[Martin_Arcainess]

So now that people mentioned what skills to use I'm gonna mention a few other things.

Are you using Grit? Did your friend use grit? If no Grit then you might be able to beat it then.

Also keep in mind DRK's DPS will vary due to damage in com, proc low blows and MP gained from Blood price.

Another thing is did you friend use food or a POT?

Also what weapon your using? Your friend may be 3iLV lower but if he has a better weapon then 3 iLV diff is nothing.

[Galactimus]

People are grossly over-estimating the difficulty of the fight if they are swapping PLD for DRK just because of "one more magical cool down." The Tank Busters are the easiest part; and PLD always has Hallowed, Sentinel, or Rampart for every single Punishing Heat (minus the one after the first Inception which I notify the healers in advance.)


I'd also add that Divine Veil saved us during progression far more than Dark Mind ever would. Shielding: Prey targets, people headed into Timegate, second Inception mechanics, and before Holy Bleed.

[Sweetgrass]

People are grossly over-estimating the difficulty of the fight if they are swapping PLD for DRK just because of "one more magical cool down."

Yeah, it's not like DRK has an extremely useful magic mitigation skill, 2 relevant raid debuffs(Reprisal is so much better than Divine Veil that it's a joke), and better DPS as well, or anything.

PLD is objectively inferior to DRK in A12S, why would you bring it? This guy is clearly trying to meet the needs of his group, as a tank should.

[CaedemSanguis]

On pull without potion :


Dark arts
Salted earth
Unmend
Carve and split
Scourge
Hard Slash
Low bow
Spining slash
Dark arts
Soul eater
Plunge

On pull with potion :

Unmend
Scourge
Hard slash
Dark arts
Syphon strike
Potion
Soul eater
Salted earth
Hard slash
Plunge
Syphon strike
Dark arts
Soul eater
Low bow
Hard slash
Darks arts + carve and split
Syphon strike
Darks arts
Soul eater

[Nivison]

So a important aspect i didnt see mentioned was timing Blood weapon to get the max amount of DASE as possible. IE if i activate BW right before i use DASE i can get 3 total DASE hits in with BW ending right after the third DASE.

[Martin_Arcainess]

So a important aspect i didnt see mentioned was timing Blood weapon to get the max amount of DASE as possible. IE if i activate BW right before i use DASE i can get 3 total DASE hits in with BW ending right after the third DASE.

Not like thats important as BW doesn't increases damage just give you extra MP per hit. IF anything you want to time it with OGCD's to get the most MP back.

[Ilan]

Not like thats important as BW doesn't increases damage just give you extra MP per hit. IF anything you want to time it with OGCD's to get the most MP back.

BW also increases your attackspeed so you could see that as a slight dps buff.

[Martin_Arcainess]

BW also increases your attackspeed so you could see that as a slight dps buff.

Yeah it's a DPS increases regardless of how many SE you fit in. I'm more thinking of, don't think BW will increases the damage of SE only. You just speeding things up. If you see where I'm coming from.

He said the max amount out of DASE. If that was the case, I'd imagine I'd have to wait till my MP is 85% full or so then use BW for more DASE during it. Which is ok but timing it with CD's is better.

[Ilan]

Yeah it's a DPS increases regardless of how many SE you fit in. I'm more thinking of, don't think BW will increases the damage of SE only. You just speeding things up. If you see where I'm coming from.

He said the max amount out of DASE. If that was the case, I'd imagine I'd have to wait till my MP is 85% full or so then use BW for more DASE during it. Which is ok but timing it with CD's is better.

Yes it just speeds you up. You are right there, i just wrote it that way just in case someone is reading in here and doesn't have any experience on DRK and gets it wrong (we all know these people exist.^^)

[MahoSenshi]

I think the point was like "don't burn yourself trying to meet group needs instead of playing class you're comfortable with".