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    WHM Questions

    So, I almost NEVER heal on mmo's but, want to give it a shot. My questions are:

    1 - Should i just heal only doing a dungeon/raid/trial, etc. or use offense when needed?

    and...

    2 - Can i make a macro that turns off and on cleric stance, like i use cure and cleric comes off or i use stone and cleric turns on kind of thing?

    Thank you in advance for feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mandodo69 View Post
    1 - Should i just heal only doing a dungeon/raid/trial, etc. or use offense when needed?

    2 - Can i make a macro that turns off and on cleric stance, like i use cure and cleric comes off or i use stone and cleric turns on kind of thing?
    1 - Healing always comes first, but you should heal in such a way that allows you to have time to DPS too. If you're not confident then it's ok to take it a little easy, it comes with practice but healer DPS is very underrated by a lot of posters.

    2 - Not really. A lot of the time you're going to want to turn cleric stance on and off instantly between GCD, which means that you're going to want to queue it up mid cast. Macros can't be queued that way, so it seems dangerous to me. Then again, I don't macro anything so maybe someone with more experience with them has a way to make it work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao_ View Post
    1 - Healing always comes first, but you should heal in such a way that allows you to have time to DPS too. If you're not confident then it's ok to take it a little easy, it comes with practice but healer DPS is very underrated by a lot of posters.

    2 - Not really. A lot of the time you're going to want to turn cleric stance on and off instantly between GCD, which means that you're going to want to queue it up mid cast. Macros can't be queued that way, so it seems dangerous to me. Then again, I don't macro anything so maybe someone with more experience with them has a way to make it work?
    SWEET! Thank you for the advice, it honestly makes me feel a lot better about how i'm going to play this job.
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    The only macro you should have is a swiftcast res macro. Otherwise no need or even worse, counterproductive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frowny View Post
    The only macro you should have is a swiftcast res macro. Otherwise no need or even worse, counterproductive.
    And even this is entirely required. I use to use this kind of macro but I've recently done away with it. It doesn't hurt though.

    And if you have any other questions, or are looking for more information you scan always check out the Healer Roles forum (LINK) on this website. Healer mains float around there and they can give you a lot of information if you are looking for it.
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    I play on PS4, where crossbar real estate is worth its weight in blood. So I have Cleric Stance macros, they use CS and change to whatever crossbar I'm not on atm, healing crossbar or dps crossbar. I find it more convenient than not, but your mileage may vary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Konungarike View Post
    I play on PS4, where crossbar real estate is worth its weight in blood. So I have Cleric Stance macros, they use CS and change to whatever crossbar I'm not on atm, healing crossbar or dps crossbar. I find it more convenient than not, but your mileage may vary.
    On the other hand, you will also be using healing and buff abilities (Asylum, Assize, Benediction, Eye for an Eye, maybe Stoneskin or Protect etc.) in Cleric Stance, so this may not be convenient.

    And yes, you should do as much DPS as possible while keeping your party safe.
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    I recommend you starting just healing, once that you get the times of your own heals, start with some DPS turning on the clearing stance manually according with the situation.
    As you can see every healer has his own way, but I think that definetly the DPS on a healer is important.
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    I main WHM. As some have said if you are just starting, concentrate first on the actual healing. When you are confident with this then yes do DPS.
    As a friendly tip for dpsing in normal mobs dungeons here is a Rotation:

    Stoneskin tank + wait for him to hit mob + put regen (if you have eye for an eye u can apply also)

    Cleric stance

    Swiftcast Holy+aero3+Holy+holy and assize

    Turn of cleric stance back to normal healing

    For me this is a good dps opener on mobs that does do a lot of burst damage and because of the stun of the holy makes mobs not do damage. As far as i have noticed mobs only stun 3 times, the 4 Holy doesnt stun and as you Holy the damage becomes lesser and lesser so i stick 3 holys. If you see that you have more time to dps then do single target Stone3 plus aero.

    Hope it helps
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    Last edited by Jib; 11-17-2016 at 05:47 PM.

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    There is also a useful macro to switch between boss/tank, which I use sometimes instead of tab or enemy list.

    /target <f>
    /focustarget <lt>

    Makes you switch to your focustarget and then focustarget your last target.

    __________


    Oh, and:

    /ac Benediction <t>
    /p Benediction on <t>. He still had <thpp> of his HP, I don't know why he died. D:
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 11-17-2016 at 06:05 PM.

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