Elephant in the room - action changes from the lore standpoint

[Fendras]

This topic is basically reflecting on my biggest concern in the game right now. Frankly it's baffled me that the elementalists have gradually take on the role of healers, and the priests of life and death became the nukers. To quote something relevant I mentioned in another topic:

Why is the job/class that's all about preserving one's life force and raising the dead based "where the voices of Eorzea's elementals are said to be most powerful" while the elemental nuker comes from a temple and ossuary, a place meant to serve as the final resting place of a person's remains?

Anyway... we've got some pretty awkward times ahead if the lore doesn't get "fixed" quickly, and we have to wait until 2.0 before things start making sense again.

[Isaveron]

You can blame the community for whining for classic FF jobs, without taking lore into consideration. Now instead of interesting classes like thaumaturge and pugilist, we're getting generic stuff like black mage and monk.

[Kailok]

You can blame the community for whining for classic FF jobs, without taking lore into consideration. Now instead of interesting classes like thaumaturge and pugilist, we're getting generic stuff like black mage and monk.

The community bitched about classic FF jobs because the classes in their current state (even now) have ZERO personality, lore or not. You can pile 1,000 more hours into the THM storyline lore-wise if you want, then play the class and feel nothing like one. You don't feel like a badass wielder of life and death, you feel like you just clicked 1, maybe throw in a 3, then 5, and then tossed a regen-based heal.

As a MRD, I have done 3 class-quests all dealing with me being a pirate. Do I have any pirate-style abilities? A couple. Is my armor stylized to look like a pirate? Nope. It's not the names people bitched about, it's the classes themselves. They have no "feel" to what they're supposed to be. Hopefully this upcoming patch will bring in the era where classes "play as intended".

And honestly, AGAIN, why in the heck would I prioritize lore over the game being fixed? Without the current game to play, I wouldn't give a crap about the lore. That's like saying "Oh my GOD, Archer is SO BROKEN...Oh well, at least it's lore is intact." It's a fantasy game. Things can be rewritten and changed.

[Fendras]

It's a fantasy game.

Precisely why I care about lore.

[Kailok]

Precisely why I care about lore.

And I'm sure it will be refined by 2.0 to your liking. Who ever said there won't be lore in the future? It just simply won't be the -exact- same as it is right now. I'd rather the lore be changed and refined now during the "FFXIV Revival" process. Yoshida's team has been having to deal with Tanaka's dead game, and with that..treasure.. came the original lore of a broken game. As a new team, I feel they have a right to change it while they're changing the game into their own.

[Fendras]

As a new team, I feel they have a right to change it while they're changing the game into their own.

Agreed, certainly. Which is why I'd stated I really, strongly hope they change it swiftly. I'm terrified of them waiting a year or whatever until 2.0.

[Davorok]

Originally Posted by Kailok
It's a fantasy game.

Precisely why I care about lore.

I also care about Lore in a Fantasy Game, but I don't care about the Lore of FFXIV as it exists now, or rather how it doesn't exist. It's just a big mess in my opinion...and boring.

I would be pleasantly surprised if they can come up with a good transition into a different lore but at this point I could live with the "we existed in a snow globe in the mind of a special needs Lalafell" ending.

[Betelgeuzah]

I also care about Lore in a Fantasy Game, but I don't care about the Lore of FFXIV as it exists now, or rather how it doesn't exist. It's just a big mess in my opinion...and boring.

XIV has fantastic lore. Your solution to SE not actually making the lore visible in-game would be to... axe it altogether to replace it with worse lore that still won't be visible anywhere. Great job.

[Catapult]

I also care about Lore in a Fantasy Game, but I don't care about the Lore of FFXIV as it exists now, or rather how it doesn't exist. It's just a big mess in my opinion...and boring.

I would be pleasantly surprised if they can come up with a good transition into a different lore but at this point I could live with the "we existed in a snow globe in the mind of a special needs Lalafell" ending.

Says the Lv35 Archer who has only been able to scratch the surface on the lore that is currently circulating.