Why can no one understand early/mid/late terms?
early 1-10
mid 11-20
late 21-21
is that hard to understand? so no by what SE said "late NOV to early DEC" they are not late, as that would be NOV 21-DEC 10
I think there's a difference between 1.18/1.19 being late and 1.20.
Game was free up till now, if they were late, so be it, can't really complain about a free game...
But 1.20 marks the restart of subscription fees; Also, the start of a very aggressive roadmap
My point is, if you present a plan and are asking your customers to have some faith in it and start paying now, you really don't want to start choking at the first hurdle, it's just going to kill the little confidence I have left in SE
NOV 21-DEC 10 is the projected release of 1.20I think there's a difference between 1.18/1.19 being late and 1.20.
Game was free up till now, if they were late, so be it, can't really complain about a free game...
But 1.20 marks the restart of subscription fees; Also, the start of a very aggressive roadmap
My point is, if you present a plan and are asking your customers to have some faith in it and start paying now, you really don't want to start choking at the first hurdle, it's just going to kill the little confidence I have left in SE
We're not paying right on 1.20 release. So... no.I think there's a difference between 1.18/1.19 being late and 1.20.
Game was free up till now, if they were late, so be it, can't really complain about a free game...
But 1.20 marks the restart of subscription fees; Also, the start of a very aggressive roadmap
My point is, if you present a plan and are asking your customers to have some faith in it and start paying now, you really don't want to start choking at the first hurdle, it's just going to kill the little confidence I have left in SE
im personally convinced the patch will be late december-early january. essentially about a 3 week delay from late november-early december.
which means im also convinced 1.21 will not be until about march or so.
15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?
Just keep a eye on the Jp section they always just translate stuff from there 1st

Here's a small hint for you peeps.
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Yoshi-P is on record as saying he wants people to be able to try out 1.20 before billing starts.
So if Billing is drafted for December 15th, logically, patch 1.20 would need to be released about a week prior to that at the very latest.
They are currently rolling out info bit-by bit and these will likely continue till the all-worlds maintenance announcement a day or two before patch. The usual disclaimers of "subject to change" are there but that's normal for in-stone information, as it's simply covering last-minute panic-attacks at HQ. The only exception is that they haven't published ability cooldowns/recast timers, which means they are legitimally still working on it. => Ready in a week or two.
Ergo, I'd give it a refined window of 28th Nov to 8th Dec.


if they are late that mean they will have to push back everything else or rush some patches.
Information is always slow to be released until just before the patch, usually pickup up pace just before release.
The last four were within an 8 day period, so I wouldn't say they were being very slow now.
We can easily get more info on the moogle fight, player search and AH before the patch is released without it being late.
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