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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Please don't make the new unique gear use capped tomes

    So with the new expansion we all know there's going to be a new AF type set (2.0 mythology, 3.0 esoterics) and it will be job specific.

    But jobs are starting to become more interchangeable now, E.G. I play PLD and DRK depending on what the situation calls for. And this works because PLD and DRK share gear except the weapon (I did relic for PLD and shire for DRK) so they remain equally geared.

    The only time this doesn't work is when the best non-raid gear is unique and bought with a capped tome. In 3.0 I had to choose between PLD and DRK and leave the other in the dirt until lore gear came. So please, in the next expansion, swap this formula around and make the unique sets bought with the uncapped tome and the capped tome be a shared set so we can keep our jobs equally geared.
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    The keynotes from Fanfest revealed job specific armor, so I don't think they'll break that tradition anytime soon.




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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    The keynotes from Fanfest revealed job specific armor, so I don't think they'll break that tradition anytime soon.
    He doesn't ask for them to remove job specific armor but rather to make the job specific armor the one bought with uncapped tomes and the shared one the one bought with capped tomes. It's basically just like swapping law and esoteric set (Or was law capped at some point? I can't remember anymore).
    Not a big deal, programming wise. You just take the item you have and link its model/texture/thumbnail to a different file.
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    It should be like 2.0, where you have a leveling low item level version and a tomestone higher ilvl version.

    The class quests in heavensward felt very underwhelming due to there being no gear in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    It should be like 2.0, where you have a leveling low item level version and a tomestone higher ilvl version.

    The class quests in heavensward felt very underwhelming due to there being no gear in them.
    I think the i55 gear was supposed to be an exception, not the rule, and only to prevent undergearing back whne Amdapor Keep and Wanderers Palace were the only end game dungeons, a role now shared with the i90 versions. I don;t think they were supposed to continue that in expanions (and I think its related to why AST, DRK and MCH didn't have equivalent gear from Level 50, and while I don;t think Stormblood's Jobs will have any level 50/60 AF gear and Relic weapons)
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    I must also say, this should be the case. I play mostly DRK and WAR. And I do so because I love DRK, but my static needs WAR for progression and clearing certain fights still (looking at you Alexander Prime). So to do the first raiding tier of 4.0 as WAR or DRK and only as WAR or DRK, or spend twice as long getting gear for both is just a pain in the arse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniPrinny View Post
    I must also say, this should be the case. I play mostly DRK and WAR. And I do so because I love DRK, but my static needs WAR for progression and clearing certain fights still (looking at you Alexander Prime). So to do the first raiding tier of 4.0 as WAR or DRK and only as WAR or DRK, or spend twice as long getting gear for both is just a pain in the arse.
    Off topic, but... if your co-tank is PLD and your group's making you switch to WAR. You need bap them on the head because DRK/WAR is far easier in A12S. Virtually all his attacks are mind based.
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    AF gear should be quested by job quests again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    I think the i55 gear was supposed to be an exception, not the rule,
    It was supossed to be the rule since they came ingame during 1.20
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    Last edited by Felis; 11-17-2016 at 05:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    It was supossed to be the rule since they came ingame during 1.20
    And yet, AST, MCH and DRK didn't get any AF gear from quests like the 2.0 Jobs. Instead of getting to 50 to get their iconic look they have to get to 60 AND grind tomestones. That suggests at the very least a paradigm shift regarding how SE thinks players should get the AF gearsets.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm not against the idea of making the AF gearsets easier to get, but I get the feeling that Heavensward is supposed to be a refinement of the trends they employed during A Realm Reborn and thus a template base future expansions on. As evidenced by the arrival of new content types and the more organized structures of other content (such as all the tome gear being upgradable instead of just the last two tiers, 1 new trial and 2 new dungeons per patch and that The Anima weapon is wholly devoted to old and easy content form the get go as opposed to the Relic starting with 2 brand new trials and 3 then current ones followed by a capped tome grind) compared to 2.X. And that it means that the AF gear will be the second tier of toemstones and will not be obtained from quests until maybe the expansion after.

    A related note would be in the prelude to Heavensward. The AF 1.5 gear (Mythology) was given as part of Job quests. The ilevel of said gear would be equal to the entry level for the 3 toughest dungeosn, meaning that all a playter would need are assessories to be able to access all the dungeons. Heavensward's AF2 Gear in comparison is i200-210, that means the gear is at the entry level for the current entry dungeons, not the 3.5 ones. And also that means they can go only as far as Sohr Khai and Hullbreaker HM without the respective accessories. The Job quests giving out Tome gear (and the MSQ giving the higher ilevel versions) is the final trend that we don't know if the devs are gonna uphold or break.
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    Last edited by Morningstar1337; 11-17-2016 at 05:43 AM.

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    it will be, it has been for every expansion

    2.0 i70 darklight (shared) then i90 relic (not shared)

    3.0 i170 doman (shared) i200 relic (not shared)

    4.0 ??? ??? (shared) ??? ??? (not shared)

    i don't see them changing from the formula.
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