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  1. #31
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    HiroKirito's Avatar
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    Hiro Azumi
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    My stance on leveling potions is simply we have no real idea yet on how they plan to implement them, I appreciate people's stance on players instant leveling to 60 and having no idea what they are doing but then again I've met plenty of players that have leveled to 60 and have no idea what they are doing.

    If it's 1 potion per new character that allows alts or new players to jump to 60, like how we get 1 fantasia per alt then I don't see it being a huge issue.

    If it becomes available to purchase on mogstation or if it can be used on crafters as well as combat then pay to win becomes the issue.
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  2. #32
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Aramina View Post
    This is actually reason.. the "same place in the game" is not only have current content unlocked it is also "has taken time to learn how to play their job". That said, the jump potions will not be to max level so IMHO people will have time to learn.. but that is the objection for alot/most.

    edit: As someone said in one of your other threads.. the topics are not really relevant to new players and would be more appropriately posted on the General Forums.
    Levelling doesn't really teach you how to play your job and in some cases instills some very bad habits because of the time spent levelling. Such as melee who don't get aoe abilities until the mid-40's and refuse to use them. I've told people before, "as a nin (really all jobs) you might as well be afk rather than doing your single target rotation on a 10 mob pull." If people had a jump potion to 50 or 60 I think there'd be a lot less of that.
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  3. #33
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    Ichirai's Avatar
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    Mamoru Ichirai
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    I didn't bother reading what other people said but I gathered this old content you speak of is pre 50 stuff. I am a casual player and have been since day 1 of 2.0
    I don't have all my jobs leveled to 60 (except crafting) so once in a while I run the pre-50 stuff "old content" and I have no desire for it to be a fast jump to 50. Honestly it doesn't take that long to get to 50 anyway and I do a lot of levequests since I like to solo sometimes. I enjoy this game and I still play the old content same way I did when I started playing this game. If you do the weekly challenge log and your daylies you will get to 50 fast enough.
    So it is definitely not dead to me...
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  4. #34
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    Nic Pay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichirai View Post
    I didn't bother reading what other people said but I gathered this old content you speak of is pre 50 stuff. I am a casual player and have been since day 1 of 2.0
    I don't have all my jobs leveled to 60 (except crafting) so once in a while I run the pre-50 stuff "old content" and I have no desire for it to be a fast jump to 50. Honestly it doesn't take that long to get to 50 anyway and I do a lot of levequests since I like to solo sometimes. I enjoy this game and I still play the old content same way I did when I started playing this game. If you do the weekly challenge log and your daylies you will get to 50 fast enough.
    So it is definitely not dead to me...
    Thats how I try to play but I mean the , 50 stuff, pre 50 is no issue at all, its the road to hw thats an issue like the extreme primals and stuff like that
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  5. #35
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    Aegis Corona
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Reading the forums I see so many opposed to the idea like I was, but I dont think anyone sees the struggle of coming in late to the game either. Like nobody is concerned about if you happened to wana take just as long as other players did to get to hw. Its pretty much do it now are dont complain so Id like legitimate reasons on why their shouldnt be one if alot of people want everyone on the same place in the game
    Ps. I've skipped the pages of discussion, please correct me if this has been responded to.

    Anyway: if people are allowed to skip, it will make this problem even worse. Not everyone will want to skip, even if they can. But with many players skipping the early content, the queues for low level stuff will be even worse than it is now. If anything, this makes the problem bigger.
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  6. #36
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    I'd rather them make old content not be dead anymore than take the lazy, cash grabby option.

    SE used to be really good about keeping old content alive. Some people did not like going back and doing it, but it's the lesser of two evils really.
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  7. #37
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Here's the thing, old content isn't really dead. SE are constantly revitalising it. People seem to have an assumption that old content = dead content and that isn't really true. The only content that seems to be dead seems to be related to stuff like Verminion.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    I'd rather them make old content not be dead anymore than take the lazy, cash grabby option.

    SE used to be really good about keeping old content alive. Some people did not like going back and doing it, but it's the lesser of two evils really.
    I totallly agree old content should have special mounts are new glmaour drops or something to make it worth a que for vet players, Im fairly new and i struggle to even get a que for the old stuff
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    Here's the thing, old content isn't really dead. SE are constantly revitalising it. People seem to have an assumption that old content = dead content and that isn't really true. The only content that seems to be dead seems to be related to stuff like Verminion.
    Well when I tried to do the older raids its like a super long que everyone tells me , to just get on track with them and do alexander.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Well when I tried to do the older raids its like a super long que everyone tells me , to just get on track with them and do alexander.
    PF up, say bonus available, should get hits at a reasonable speed. People want those second chance points. It's a shame you aren't on Odin, I could have been of assistance that way.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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