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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalWolf View Post
    If they do add jump potions I swear to god I better not see topics about an increase of bad people in the duty finder.
    You will see them based on the single fact it was implemented and certain folks cannot accept change.

    As far as bad ppl in DF. (which happens now) Unless they are some rare lone wolf or completely unwilling to accept feedback and advice from established players. I consider their community failing them as well. (FC and friends)

    While there are those unwilling to learn...
    There are plenty established players unwilling to teach.
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  2. #22
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    ZhaneX's Avatar
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    Zana Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalWolf View Post
    No amount of leveling potions will teach people how to be a better player.

    If they do add jump potions I swear to god I better not see topics about an increase of bad people in the duty finder.
    Of course there will be. There are already plenty of bad players mucking up the Duty Finder. But it's impossible to actually measure whether there'd be an increase in the overall pool of such players or not following the implementation of the proposed pay-to-skip-content potions. Thus, because confirmation bias is a thing, people would perceive an increase whether there actually is a discernible one or not, and subsequently complain about it.
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  3. #23
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    You guys act like every single time you use the duty finder you encounter a bad player, strangely I use the duty finder to run my daily roulette and I find it rare to encounter so said " bad players "
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai_Lee View Post
    You guys act like every single time you use the duty finder you encounter a bad player, strangely I use the duty finder to run my daily roulette and I find it rare to encounter so said " bad players "
    That would be your interpretation.

    My point simply put is:
    - Under-skilled players will exist regardless if a jump potion is added or not.
    - Experienced players not willing to teach/guide will exist regardless of a jump potion.
    - It is a double-edged sword, imo.

    Some players on this forum strongly against a jump potion and if implemented will exaggerate the issues they feel said potion effects.

    The same can be said for folks in favor of a jump potion, using other issues for their examples.

    That is what I was discussing.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    That would be your interpretation.

    My point simply put is:
    - Under-skilled players will exist regardless if a jump potion is added or not.
    - Experienced players not willing to teach/guide will exist regardless of a jump potion.
    - It is a double-edged sword, imo.

    Some players on this forum strongly against a jump potion and if implemented will exaggerate the issues they feel said potion effects.

    The same can be said for folks in favor of a jump potion, using other issues for their examples.

    That is what I was discussing.
    I agree because Ive seen many players just drop duties and its mostly experienced ones Ive hardly ever seen a newer player just leave. I dont understand if you want people to be good why not lend a hand in helping them get there.
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  6. #26
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    I was pretty sure this item was something only being considered for China and that they were undecided. It makes sense for China where many MMO players pay for internet by the hour. China's version of WoW also has differences to suit its playerbase.

    Anyway, although my input means nothing, I might as well give it in a thread asking for it. I have little moral opposition to it nowadays, but what I don't get is why someone that may potentially like this game would actually use it. The game is designed around one character, so this theoretical item would almost only be used by new players. This game is about story and presentation before anything else, and by using this item you'd basically be removing a huge part of the entire reason to play and enjoy this game. On the other hand, I absolutely sympathize with wanting to just play with friends, and this item may make that a lot easier. That's why I'm mostly okay with it; whenever someone uses this item, there will likely still be more great stories in the present and future to experience as well.
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    Last edited by Teiren; 11-19-2016 at 01:04 PM.

  7. #27
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    The reason to have so said jump lvl item is to make sure your new friend can play with you right now. Literally do the content that is fun and relevant right now and not have to wait hours upon hours for them to level up.
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  8. #28
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    Takru Haru
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    i say no to jump potion maybe make exp potions so we get a bit more xp for a set time that means we still have to work for what we want
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniOmegaDragon View Post
    i say no to jump potion maybe make exp potions so we get a bit more xp for a set time that means we still have to work for what we want
    But literally all you will be doing is dungeons nobody does the other stuff anymore trust me Ive tried parties for extreme primals that are old are like 30 mins to an hour to find
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    Players still do extreme primals, but its all unsync, no one wants to do old content sync if they dont have to.
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