We need to let the devs be devs.

[MicahZerrshia]

I am not acting hysterical. I am sick of people attacking my opinions. I know people don't like me on these forums, because I've seen the what people say about my posts. I've felt the impact of their bullying. What I've learned is that once I've been made a target there is nothing can do. Fine, have what you want, I'm just going to stop participating in these forums now.

Welcome to the internet!

[Kaurie]

I feel like there's too many suggestions floating around. Not that player feedback is bad, it's just that there's no way they can accommodate all of us. All I'm seeing on the forums lately is suggestions of things that you think the developers should do. Then If people don't get what they want, they whine about it forever. I'm definitely supportive of fan content, but we need to let the developers make the next expansions how they would make them. That's how new, original, and solid content is usually made. I find it hard to believe that the developers can sustain themselves on fan suggestions alone. They need to be inspired for themselves.

I disagree, constant feedback is good for the developers. It's unfortunate that there is little to no 2-way discussion regarding feedback. I do miss the WoW forums, where blue posts are much more frequent. Even if the post is just to come and say, "we're not doing this", then fine. Often the blue posts give a pretty good reason as to why not as well.

That said I do agree they need to be inspired for themselves. From my perspective, that is how they are generating most of their content. The majority of suggestions that I see never make it to the game, nor are even addressed.

I am not acting hysterical. I am sick of people attacking my opinions. I know people don't like me on these forums, because I've seen the what people say about my posts. I've felt the impact of their bullying. What I've learned is that once I've been made a target there is nothing can do. Fine, have what you want, I'm just going to stop participating in these forums now.

Why are you acting like the victim, when you've started threads with the purpose of mocking people for their view? (i.e. the Dancer thread).

I would also like to add that the way people are negatively linking my topics is petty, and sad. You shouldn't pressure people just because you think their opinion is odd, or doesn't align with you. Yeah, its easy to make fun of me, because I want our characters bodies to have a little more realism i.e muscle sliders, and more obvious nipples, but its also stooping quite low. You made those posts knowing that it would be easy for people to make fun of me for those opinions.

You shouldn't pressure people just because you think their opinion is odd or doesn't align with you... Isn't that precisely what you did with this very thread (pressuring people to stop suggesting)?

[Jetstream_Fox]

I am not acting hysterical. I am sick of people attacking my opinions. I know people don't like me on these forums, because I've seen the what people say about my posts. I've felt the impact of their bullying. What I've learned is that once I've been made a target there is nothing can do. Fine, have what you want, I'm just going to stop participating in these forums now.

Hate to break it to you but you kinda did bring it on yourself in this regard, you told people to stop making suggestions but you've done that yourself. It's like a politician telling people they're against idea X but less than a month ago they were rallying for idea X. You've flip flopped on a topic you previously endorsed, then to call people petty and sad, for linking a public post that contradicts what you're trying to promote. It makes you sound condescending to others, then proclaiming you're leaving the forums and people hate you, certainly makes you seem like you're overreacting and looking for reactions out of people.

[Mugiawara]

I am not acting hysterical. I am sick of people attacking my opinions. I know people don't like me on these forums, because I've seen the what people say about my posts. I've felt the impact of their bullying. What I've learned is that once I've been made a target there is nothing can do. Fine, have what you want, I'm just going to stop participating in these forums now.

Meanwhile you attacked me by calling me sad, pathetic and low for calling you out.
But you don't see me screaming "Meanie alert!" now do you? Lol.

[DamianFatale]

Welcome to the internet!

It doesn't make it okay.

[Laerune]

We should let the developers do their thing, but at the same time we need to give them feedback aswell. The developers are not making this game just, because they like to make games. They are part of a business and this business needs cash flow, otherwise FFXIV would have been a free game. Since FFXIV needs cash, it needs customer and we the customer have stuff that want or expect from the game. If the developers ignore the players, then they will not know what we, the players like and dislike. SE has people that will filter the good suggestions from the ones where people are trolling.

Feedback is important, we should give it (I wish developers brought back the ingame polls from the BETA) and developers need it or else the game will never improve.

[Eul]

If dev being dev, they won't know how unfair the gear gender distribution like bunny ears and those gloves and boots before that only for females.

[Dragon_Sanders]

We? Let? The developers?
...You just worry too much, I'm afraid.

[DamianFatale]

Hate to break it to you but you kinda did bring it on yourself in this regard, you told people to stop making suggestions but you've done that yourself. It's like a politician telling people they're against idea X but less than a month ago they were rallying for idea X. You've flip flopped on a topic you previously endorsed, then to call people petty and sad, for linking a public post that contradicts what you're trying to promote. It makes you sound condescending to others, then proclaiming you're leaving the forums and people hate you, certainly makes you seem like you're overreacting and looking for reactions out of people.

Did you actually read what I said? I suggested that people SLOW DOWN, not stop.

[Jetstream_Fox]

Did you actually read what I said? I suggested that people SLOW DOWN, not stop.

Well

I feel like there's too many suggestions floating around. Not that player feedback is bad, it's just that there's no way they can accommodate all of us. All I'm seeing on the forums lately is suggestions of things that you think the developers should do. Then If people don't get what they want, they whine about it forever. I'm definitely supportive of fan content, but we need to let the developers make the next expansions how they would make them. That's how new, original, and solid content is usually made. I find it hard to believe that the developers can sustain themselves on fan suggestions alone. They need to be inspired for themselves.

You didn't say slow down or stop anywhere in your OP.

You're saying let them be them, and people cry and whine about not getting what they want from the devs, and you're for fan content, and want more solid content. But right there you're contradicting yourself inadvertently, most of the content in this game, well mostly PotD and Diadem, were heavily influenced by the community, as was adding the RP icon, and the plea for housing caused SE to make apartments.

The entire meaning of your passage could mean to some, as a means to promote less community suggestions or stop them completely, because like you said "they can't accommodate us all."

No one is attacking you or telling you to leave, people are merely pointing out the irony within your realization. That realizing a guy who called for the inclusion of man nipples is now saying things along the lines of calling on people to slow/stop community suggestions, is a bit absurd.