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  1. #11
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    Rongway's Avatar
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    Cyrillo Rongway
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Did some data collection with a friend.

    Lv60 BRD with AST in party can maintain Foe Requiem for 66-69 seconds.
    With basic Ewer somewhen in the middle, this increases to 96-99 seconds, for a gain of 27-30 seconds. For now, let's assume that the 3s range is a side effect of the timing of Foe Requiem activation related to the server tick, and that Ewer very likely bought is 30s in all cases.



    Then consider a few of the DPS applications.

    Balance increases one person's damage by 20% for 30s.
    Ewer increases party magic damage by 11% for 30s.

    Extended Balance increases one person's damage by 20% for 60s
    Extended Ewer increases party magic damage by 11% for 60s.

    Expanded Balance increases party damage by 10% for 30s.
    Base Ewer increases party magic damage by 11% for 30s.

    So in a magic heavy party, it might even be better to throw a base Ewer at the BRD instead of burning it and maybe ending up with something undesirable like an Expanded Bole. I don't have time to do the maths right now to say where on the good idea / bad idea spectrum this falls for serious full party duties, but certainly if you end up in a caster heavy full party roulette or alliance raid, it bears consideration.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 11-27-2016 at 07:28 PM.
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  2. #12
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    SpiritMuse's Avatar
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    Lelane Lavellan
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    To be honest, I think his MP was always on a rise far more than he lost even in battle and that was with just basic, no extended or enhanced.
    This is my experience as well. I like to throw ewers on my bard friend and I've noticed that even the basic, totally unenhanced version refreshes his mp faster than he's expending it.
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  3. #13
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    N8Dawgg's Avatar
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    Character
    Lyle Rhunding
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    *In my experience*

    If I have a spare Ewer for whatever reason, it goes to Bard for that reason. If Foes is up, it goes longer. If no MP, they can use it faster.

    Bards and caster alike are very appreciative.

    I also sometimes too them on SMN's, moar Ruin III's yo.
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    N8Dawgg's Avatar
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    Character
    Lyle Rhunding
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    ***Throw***
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