Quote Originally Posted by RemnantWolf View Post
I feel there is so much that people have forgotten about the journey in recent years...

A sense of accomplishment-

A lot of people argue that accomplishment shouldn't come from time spent playing the game, and honestly, I kinda agree. But the grind does add something to that. It separates players... now before you start telling me that's a problem, let me explain why I see it as a strength for an MMO.

When I started playing FFXI I had been invited by a friend. He not only taught me how to use the interface, macros and auction house (ah the life lessons of crystals +auction house = gil) but he showed me who I could be. He very early on took me around and showed me some areas (not many places I couldn't reach on my own, he felt I should earn those) and the little Tarutaru proceeded to decimate everything. Swarms of mobs would fall at his feet at the flick of his level 67 black mage wrist. Enemies that could kill me by looking at me.

In a way it was reminiscent of Megaman X. In the first game, the very first stage the boss is set to beat you. You can't damage him, you can't avoid him, cant escape him, and when all hope seems lost Zero busts in and destroys the dude in a single shot. Instantly you are thinking "Man this guy is awesome! I want to be like him, I want to be that strong!" He quickly becomes that cool character, that awesome goal, the strong guy you aspire to. He then proceeds to say that while you are not as strong as him now, someday you will be! This is huge, the promise to one day be as strong as him becomes a big part of the game, collecting health boosts, new armors, new weapons it all has that theme.

From an MMO stand point, watching people topple beasts that send you running in a single blow is a huge incentive to keep playing, they not only become your inspiration, but your rival. They make every level, every grind party, every over ambitious pull worth while. This separation gave players a much more substantial, and sometimes, more meaningful goal than simple end game. To go from a beginner, just learning the ropes, to an equal, a comrade, someone who doesn't just respect these masters, but is respected by them. If these things are easy to achieve, then not only do strong players fail to impress on any substantial level, but you care very little about these self set goals.


Rites of Passage-

Many people fail to bring things like this up but an MMO is a world with players, and that's it. Now a GOOD MMO on the other hand is its own culture. This is shown, not only through the NCPs or the story, but through the players and how they teach and treat each other. I remember when I hit level 10, my friend was quick to tell me that I needed to go to the Valkurm Dunes and find a party. This place was where I learned how to party, and it was a lot to learn from me as I was a warrior and therefor the tank (I remember when I first died, and after a resurrect I ran right back into battle not knowing anything about weakened status, not a good idea for a tank, but you have to admit I showed the will and tenacity for the job)

This journey was a big deal, they congratulated me on my accomplishments, the told me how close I was to my sub job all of these things were treated as mile stones, achievements worthy of praise, and celebration. Me and my party was lead into the dunes by an experienced and strong player, to teach us how to hunt our prey. He taught our thief how to pull, our DDs and healers how to keep hate off of them, as well as teaching me how to keep hate where I wanted it, and who to protect from it. He then would stay and watch us fight as we took our first few enemies, always ready to spring into action if ever we needed help. It was like a first hunt. Experienced hunters came along to teach us how to survive the hostile world and after that we were on our own, "adults" if you will. It made my levels going up was actually connected to my character growing up. He felt like he was growing into a warrior, and how the community treated this only solidified it.

Now if the game's "Journey" is too fast, and leveling does not give time to truly develop any traditions, then the Culture of the game is lost. Not only is there no need for these moments of learning how to play under the watchful eye of your elders, but there is no reason to celebrate getting to level 10 or getting a chocobo, none of it feels like noteworthy accomplishment...

Am I saying that the game should go to a months to level, grind fest? No. All I am saying is that if all a game focuses on is the end game content, look how much we miss out on. If someone comes up to you and says, "Seinfeld was a show about nothing" or "West Wing was about a president who got elected again and then someone else got elected" would you say you experienced anything? If all the game is, is endgame, then it's like fast forwarding through any tv show and then watching the last episode. Even though you watched the last episode, you missed too much to say you experienced anything of any value. You never learn to love the characters, never feel good for their achievements, and never feel bad when they are hurting. All you got was them saying goodbye, and I wouldn't watch a show that was nothing but goodbyes from people I don't care for.
Hi Remnant,

Thanks for the great reply.

You bring up many of the feelings and sentiments that I have. Like you, I remember seeing my first inspiration while starting out in Final Fantasy XI. My friends and I were braving the area just outside Windhurst, with our low-level characters and I remember seeing a group being overwhelmed with adds. They died, but then a White Mage in the classic Final Fantasy White Artifact Armor, happened to be passing through and proceeded to Raise the group. She then stayed and threw on Protect, Shell for them and watched the group recover and try fighting again, cheering them on before leaving.

I remember seeing my first group of Level 75s running through Qufim Island (no doubt on the way to Behemoth's Dominion, but I didn't know at the time), and being in awe as they fearlessly ran through with little-to-no-care, and helped clear a path for us stuck inbetween the entrance and Delkfutt's Tower.

There are countless other moments, like seeing a Monk execute Asuran Fists for the first time. I was in awe and he became an inspiration for me to want to reach Level 75 and get achieve that Weaponskill one day.

I hope the new Final Fantasy XIV Version 2.0 and the new lands and quests / missions and new classes can provide that for all of us as well. To create a good pace, and culture where these things can occur (instead of a mad rush to reach Max Level End Game Only).

I hold out hope that Yoshida-san and his team can deliver.