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    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    SO, now your defense of Auto-Attack is that it makes being an Archer easier? We must be world apart about what makes a game good. I personally do not need the game to do it for me. I like there to be a little Skill involved in my game play. Archer was the last DD in the game that offer real player dependent skill. It required the user to moderate there damage and time there attacks. What you are advocating is watching your TP bar fill up and hitting a weapon skill. You are advocating the removal of skill, class uniqueness, engaging combat, and Potency. You would sacrifice all of that so that your class isn't to hard?
    She isn't saying it's easier. She's saying it's more efficient. Efficiency is something ARC lacks right now. Your argument of being moderate with damage and timing attacks went out the window when ARC was brought down in the last patch. Also, you can't argue engaging combat until we see how ARC fits in with the combo system. As stated earlier, ARC lost a lot of it's potency during it's nerf. The class is still unique since it's our only ranged class at the moment. And honestly, if your skill goes out the window because of auto attack, you didn't have skill to begin with.
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    Kiote's Avatar
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    Kiote Corissimo
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Welp. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news (to some, and good news to others, I suppose)... But the "ARC auto-attack" on the action list was actually a mistake. It should have read "ARC standard attack" which is what I've updated that to. ARCs auto-attack will remain a swift punch in the face come patch 1.20 with the manual shot process remaining as it is currently.
    OH THANK GOD!

    Now,

    The whole Drk-like Dragoon thing is settled..

    The Ranger Auto-Attack is Settled..

    Let get to the Reactive Combat Skills.

    I honestly think making Feint, Jarring Strike, Fracture, and Phalanx class specific is going to be very detrimental to the Enjoyment of solo game play.

    Even if we somehow get to keep our manual attacks, it has always felt like they were not enough to warrant 30-60 second timers. The reactive combat skills give Solo combat the ability to draw the user into a fight. They also allow for a significant boost in Damage output for solo player. This boost does not translate in to party imbalance because these skills can only be used by the person with hate. I think it would be a great disservice to the people with a preference of solo game play to restrict skills that make there battles more Exciting and interactive.

    These skills also go a long way to making tanking more fun. Players gain the ability to add to the party damage output and an additional method of gaining hate. I have always found tanking to be rather boring in other MMOs, but when you add these skills to a Gladiator or a Marauder it gives alot of depth and quick thinking to their game play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    OH THANK GOD!
    ARC is by far the weakest "DD" class atm, and by defintion a weak DDonly class is useless. The upcoming changes suggest that it will STILL be the weakest DD. Now they've confirmed that it will still be the only class getting it's TP accumulation gimped by not including an AA. Even with fixes to all the other nerfs that 1.19 brought to ARC, with the new changes, ARC still sits at the bottom of the totem pole. Add that BRD offers a large amount of increased survivabilitly and the Dev's have effectively scraped ARC as a viable DD. BRD may shine, and so people will level ARC to access it, but since ARC is the only class that got a completely different role assignment as a job... the Dev's should have focused more on keeping the class BRD stems from viable. But I guess that's no different from what's going on right now.. ARC's been dead for awhile now, guess we are still paying atonement for a year of OPness.. but THAT WASN'T PLAYERS FAULT!

    Owait, do you even run ARC? If not, don't bother replying directly to me cause I won't be paying attention..
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    Corrderio Arseid
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    So ARC is still gimped as hell due to animation lock? Nice.
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    Kiote's Avatar
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    Kiote Corissimo
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    So ARC is still gimped as hell due to animation lock? Nice.
    Animation lock is a temporary issue that should in no way impact the future of a class' mechanics.

    Now we are on to the issue of Reactive combat skills.

    I fail to see what benifits can be gained from making skills like Feint, Jarring Strike, Frature, and Phalanx class specific.
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    Corrderio Arseid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    Animation lock is a temporary issue that should in no way impact the future of a class' mechanics.
    If future fights are anything like Ifrit where you need to be ready to in order to survive, ARC is going to be nothing but a cruth to the party.

    Animation lock for weaponskills is one thing, but animation lock for your basic attack is beyond retarded. It's amazing Yoshida still considered manual ranged attacks as a good thing.
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Actual class identity instead of the hodge-podge we have now?
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