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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Does WHM deserve a buff to MP restoration?

    I've been looking at it for a while, and I do think 15 seconds, even with Assize, is simply too short of an MP regen for WHM to function as well as they should be.

    Free Cure, the medica trait, overcure, all of this is assuming that you'll be healing for the majority of the fight.

    While it's good for healing, but when DPSing, you really start to see how little MP you have.

    Shroud of saints should be moved to 24 seconds like Luminiferous, to combat that MP use that you'll lose while dpsing.
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    Maybe bump Aero spells to 60 initial potency and then make it so you restore 4% of your max mp for having all three on an enemy.
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    Aillith Odendaal
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    I really have no issues managing my mp as dps whm. It would be nice to have more - but I rarely find myself suffering for lack of mana.
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    It truly depends on how much you dps. I'm the type that will throw up regens, and go straight to dpsing. For as long as I possibly can.
    I notice I'm usually out of MP near the middle of the fight while with AST, I would be at half MP and Luminiferous would be nearly off it's CD.

    I think with WHM, they're assuming most of your MP will go to healing, and give us Freecure and a half cost medica proc, but they gave us no such MP management traits on any of our DPS spells.
    Holy in particular can drain you after 4-5 casts without shroud up.

    Perhaps something as simple as Presence of Mind reducing MP cost and Assize restoring 20% MP instead of 10 would do it. Perhaps give Benediction an added trait of MP restoration on yourself as well, lot of possibilities when it comes to this really.
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    I can manage MP pretty fine as a WHM, better than when I play an AST, but that might be due to me being a WHM main far longer than me playing an AST.

    Anyways, I do like the idea of a free stone 3 or Holy trait since those are what drains my MP the most. Otherwise, what the OP mentioned are an easy enough buff that the dev can do
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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    I don't think so. But I do think that AST's refresh should nerfed. Heavily nerfed.
    I was in this sophia farm party yesterday and the party wasn't so great. I had to do like 6 or 7 ascend, while almost solohealing and doing a little dps. I ended up with no mp, so I decided to be selfish for once and use celestial opposition just to extend my LA...boom, back to full mp. This is not acceptable in my opinion, as MP management should be part of a healer's job. Nothing wrong with WHM's mp refresh skills, it's just that AST's refresh + lower mp cost is too good atm.
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    Player Rennies's Avatar
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    Meanwhile Scholar rarely gives a damn about MP since Heavenward launched :P
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    While I do believe AST MP management atm is hilariously overpowered, I don't think AST should receive nerfs before other options.
    WHM should receive various MP buffs to match that of a SCH and AST. Buff their shroud, buff the Assize restoration etc.

    If they absolutely have to though, I'm not opposed to Luminiferous Aether being bumped back down to 15 seconds and able to simply be extended to 25 seconds, not 34..... MP management should be a mechanic for every healer, and so fsr only WHM has to deal with it as a serious issue.
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    Kipp Kaida
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    If they would just make it so Shroud of Saints scales with total MP, it would be fine. It only gives a flat MP amount based on level from what I know.
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    Player Rennies's Avatar
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    The biggest issue is that WHM has much higher mp costs than Astro. Either make Freecure more likely (or guaranteed once every minute or 30 seconds or something) or just reduce Cure to Benefic, Cure II to Bene II, Holy to just 100mp over Gravity (it has the stun, so...).
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