Viera as the next new race~ Show your support

[LyraKuroneko]

They originated in Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced and back there there were no male Viera, they were a race who were only ever female, similar to Gerudo and Asari. FFXII went and messed that up along with it's combat system that was all kinds of broken but that last part is an entirely different conversation. Even in FFXII, Male Viera never make any appearances, they spend their entire lives as hermits and raising male children (presumably against the children's wills)

If you are so desperate for male Viera then that has to change, not by retcon, but by in game action that forces a colossal change in Viera society. Instead of erasing their past, curve their future. Any less would be unacceptable if we're going to be stuck with playable male Viera

Talking about lore to not want to add a gender while playing a male keeper of the moon miqo'te is quite funny.

Beside, XIV isn't in the Ivalice lore. It can be changed to whatever the devs desire.

[Mavrias]

Talking about lore to not want to add a gender while playing a male keeper of the moon miqo'te is quite funny.

Beside, XIV isn't in the Ivalice lore. It can be changed to whatever the devs desire.

yoshi p literally just adressed the reasons why male viera arent a thing in the most recent letter from the producer, why are yall still going on about lore?

[Klonoa7]

...Man, have you read any other post, like the actual Male Viera thread? lol All the points you're saying have already been debated and debunked repeatedly. In short:

It does not matter, Tactics was still their point of origin and Tactic's lore should have been respected. There is also that Tactics took place in an alternate dimension created by (and later destroyed by) a magical Grimoire that Mewt found, not in a dream. The thing is that when returning from alternate dimensions, you'll often feel as if it was all a dream as in the case for the aforementioned FFTA, Alice in Wonderland, The Wizard of Oz, the FF14-FF15 crossover (watch both sides of it), Click (thought it focuses on time travel rather than dimension travel), and many others. Such is the nature of plots involving reality warping and/or dimensional travel. In same cases you may even struggle to recall the other dimension, if you even remember it at all.

And then theres Eternal Sonata's surprise ending (turns out it wasn't a dream after all), Star Ocean 3: Till the End of Time (apparently their entire existence is a mere MMO for 4th dimension kids), etc. I know there are many more examples but those are the only examples that come to mind at the moment.

And then theres The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening. While the entire game takes place inside the dream of a "wind fish" deity (of course the dreams of a god is as good as an alternate reality, some even believe our reality is the dream of a god, the MMO Tera also explores this idea), the creatures of it's dreams were sentient and one of the creatures in it's dream, Marin, wished she were born as a seagull so she could travel the world. Following the game conclusion, Marin is allowed to become real as the Wind Fish gives her life in the form of a seagull.


All that said, "just a dream" is not that simple and they already broke Viera's lore once, we don't need it broken again. The ENTIRE point of RPGs is the lore, when you start messing with the lore, it becomes meaningless.

[zeylos]

All that said, "just a dream" is not that simple and they already broke Viera's lore once, we don't need it broken again. The ENTIRE point of RPGs is the lore, when you start messing with the lore, it becomes meaningless.

Ofc it is. Then we need male viera. FFXII didnt feature male viera because matsuno had to leave. Let's stick to the lore now and release male viera as they have already been confirmed to be as numberous as male miqote keepers. Also love ti how you NEVER mentioned the lore of the hrotgar.

[LyraKuroneko]

yoshi p literally just adressed the reasons why male viera arent a thing in the most recent letter from the producer, why are yall still going on about lore?

Not me lol, the dude I was answering to.

The reason we didn't get other gender wasn't only said in this later but some month ago now. Just some pple that still can't accept that.

[Klonoa7]

Ofc it is. Then we need male viera. FFXII didnt feature male viera because matsuno had to leave. Let's stick to the lore now and release male viera as they have already been confirmed to be as numberous as male miqote keepers. Also love ti how you NEVER mentioned the lore of the hrotgar.

I already brought that up in a previous post which you were probably too lazy to read

This much I can agree with. I believe the main reason Hrothgar were gender locked was to be even with Viera. Viera needed to be gender locked for lore purposes while Hrothgar only got gender locked due to Viera being gender locked (possibly due to belief that players would riot if one new race was gender locked and the other wasn't yet they riot anyways, expecting Enix to destroy long established lore to satisfy their desires)

Regardless, based on the nature of your post with numerous(the correct spelling) typos, only quoting a small portion of my quote, and adamantly replying "Ofc it is" to the conclusion of my post without even analyzing the rest, I'd say your post has no merrit at all.

As for the FF14 side of the FF14-FF15 crossover, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1EVcnOK6IY&t=40m15s is how it begins and 40:40 is where Noctis shows back up after the events of his quests in FF14, he was with us at least a day during the quest (as evidenced by the camping) yet back on his dimension, it was as if he was only gone for 25 seconds. What's more is when he gets back, he had no memories of Eorzea. Are you gonna say Eorzea is just a dream then? Both dimensions are equally real (In the Square Enix universe that is) and just because the transition between them feels like a dream, that does not mean that they are dreams.

[Senn]

My male viera thread got deleted, so I'm recycling this one.

I'd like the focus of this thread to be on support for male viera. Some people in the other thread were trolling and the topic steered into something very inappropriate. Let's leave all of that at the door this time.

I've edited my original post. You can still view the original post and that has not been changed.

[Listrella]

chances are this one gets deleted before long.

[Senn]

chances are this one gets deleted before long.

Maybe. People rather throw around accusations than have a civilized discussion.
I just ask that if anyone here is trying to provoke or troll, ignore them.

At the very least, the male viera thread got a lot of attention and support, and I'm sure the message got across to the people that matter. So even if it was deleted, I don't feel too bad.

[Corrie]

Maybe. People rather throw around accusations than have a civilized discussion.
I just ask that if anyone here is trying to provoke or troll, ignore them.

At the very least, the male viera thread got a lot of attention and support, and I'm sure the message got across to the people that matter. So even if it was deleted, I don't feel too bad.

....What the hell happened?? ive been gone for a few days but last I saw there wasnt any posts to delete a whole 1000 page thread over?