Viera as the next new race~ Show your support

[Nestama]

If we were to get another short race, I'd rather they not be cute/childlike (again). And if the second clan for Viera do happen to be short, I'd be fine with them being like (Tolkien) Dwarves... but Viera edition.

[Mizunoko]

Sign me up for the short/cute vierra version <3. As a fan of ff12 this is something i have always wanted to see in a sooner than later expansion

[Senn]

Alright, I have a really crazy theory that I don't know where to post so I'll put it here.

First off, I'm sure by now that everyone and their chocobo has heard about the supposed leaks and this got me thinking about something.

As I'm sure everyone who likes Viera would know, in the lore male Viera are never seen and nobody knows what they look like. This would give the dev team a bit of leeway in their design, as they have nothing to imitate. We know from the concept art they revealed at Fanfest. That they considered making male Viera just buff dudes, but scrapped Viera as a whole as they considered them too similiar to Miqo'te.
If they were to go through and add Viera, they would have to give them a very different design to Miqo'te to make them stand out. A lot of people are theorising that they'll be reverse Au Ra (i.e. Tall girls and short boys.) which I like the sound of. For the time being, let's consider the reverse dimorphism theory to be true.

Now with the release of the Ridorana raid, we were introduced to two things to bear in mind: The confirmation of Viera and how Moogles look since they introduced Hurdy and Montblanc, two Moogle characters from the Ivalice games.
Now I'm not sure how others felt but I was personally disappointed that they kept the XIV Moogle design rather than using the Ivalice Moogle designs.
But then a thought came to me: "Moogles are one of the more popular designs to come from Ivalice, wouldn't it be a bit of a waste to restrict them to a couple of quests in a raid?"

This is where you're going to have to bear with me.

Refer to this line:

There have been arguments about whether this refers to status or population. Since Viera have been grouped up with the other "beastly" races I'd assume this means that they're considered a beast tribe.
So if the leaks are correct and Viera will be the next playable race, this means that they'd be our first playable beast tribe. Since this means we'd have a playable beast race, what's to stop their designs from going a little further than just "human with bunny ears". What's to stop them having a little bit more fur? Or maybe a little less height?
If anyone is unware of how Ivalice Moogles look, let me present you this:

Cute little guy isn't he?
Do you notice anything about his design?
Let me help you out by taking away those accessories of his.

What do you think? A tiny bit rabbity, right?

We were shown various ideas for Viera back at Fanfest. One being a short and cute design and another more "feral" looking Viera with whiskers, fur markings and beady eyes.
Now what if they were to combine both those ideas? Can you think of anything resembling a young, whiskered Viera with beady eyes?

Therefore, I present my theorised Viera race:


We'd get the best of both worlds. The tall and imposing Fran lookalikes for female Viera and the short, cute designs for male Viera.

Feel free to disprove me, this was just a crazy idea I had.

I can't really prove or disprove you either way, but I would not want the male viera to look like that. I prefer the short and cute male viera from the concept art. Or male viera that have Alphinaud's body type.


We don't have a race with slim, short (but taller than lalafell), and cute male characters. Male miqo'te are still well built. Elezen are slim but not short, and their proportions are weird. The short viera from the concept art are not as short as lalafell and are less pudgy. Something between the height of lalafell and female au ra would be nice to have.

And if the second clan for Viera do happen to be short, I'd be fine with them being like (Tolkien) Dwarves... but Viera edition.

No thanks.

[Coombah]

I always liked the concept art for Viera and I do agree with also having two different clans as well as more variety..

[Alacran]

Many keep clamoring for the "Small/ Cute" version. I really can't help but think it's nothing more than child versions of the race. Just as all races have child models in game (except Roe...) Would it not make sense that Viera would also have those models aswell? I wouldn't mind them in the game, but not as a playable race.

[Senn]

I really can't help but think it's nothing more than child versions of the race.

You don't know if they are child versions of viera or not. It's just your opinion.

As far as I can tell, the concept art that was drawn were ideas for a playable race. I am definitely in support of a small/cute version of viera, as well as the tall/elegant version. I want both to be playable.

[Nestama]

No thanks.

Yes please. Lalafell's are as far as I will go to seeing a playable 'child' race. Anything that actually looks like a child (more so than female Au Ra and the Elezen twins) is just a huge no thank you to me.

If Viera are to be playable, then let's see something that even those who don't like them could enjoy. Short burly muscle man and woman as the 'digging' clan of Viera.

[Senn]

Yes please. Lalafell's are as far as I will go to seeing a playable 'child' race. Anything that actually looks like a child (more so than female Au Ra and the Elezen twins) is just a huge no thank you to me.

Lalafell:
-Pointed ears
-Proportions are not like real children

Short/cute viera:
-Rabbit ears
-The concept art showed rabbit tails
-Digitigrade feet
-Claws
-Proportions are not like real children

Why do lalafells pass for you, while the short/cute viera do not? Lalafells are closer to real children than viera will ever be.

If Viera are to be playable, then let's see something that even those who don't like them could enjoy. Short burly muscle man and woman as the 'digging' clan of Viera.

No thanks. I don't mind a new race that is short/burly/muscular being added, but I don't want viera to be roped into it. If you want a dwarf race or whatever, I hope you will one day get it, just not as viera.

[Nestama]

Lalafell's get a pass mainly because of how similar they are to Tarutaru, since that's what the 1.0 team were going for (and I can't exactly demand SE to delete Lalafell's). Depending on the glamour you go for, they'll only look like children if that's what you're aiming for. Otherwise they just look like really short adults (at least, to me they do). I believe Yoshi-P also said something about the proportions of Lalafell's being a little different to children (heads too big or something), which was a response to people asking for Miqo'te children to be playable (that's a big no from me, too).

With the childlike Viera concept art... they look 100% like children. Very similar to Miqo'te children in design, now that I think about it.

And I'm only suggesting the short burly Viera be the second clan. That way those who want the tall elegant Viera get what they want and those who want something short that isn't cute (for a change) get something as well. It's win-win in my eyes.

[Senn]

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Then give viera males the option for facial hair as well. I have to disagree, their proportions are not like real children. And once again, lalafell look more like real children than viera will ever be. Lalafell emotes are really child-like now that I think about it.