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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahrze View Post
    Fair or simplified?
    The argument of "but it's just a hyur with <insert animal parts>!" is tiresome. At this point, SE is obviously sticking with humanoid races. However, they all come with rather distinct body shapes, very different facial features and different mannerisms through their emotes/poses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    The argument of "but it's just a hyur with <insert animal parts>!" is tiresome. At this point, SE is obviously sticking with humanoid races. However, they all come with rather distinct body shapes, very different facial features and different mannerisms through their emotes/poses.
    That's my point. I agree that SE wants the whole "kemonomimi" thing as a rule of thumb. But we -can- ask for more nuance to the races while also expecting a new one and Viera is the highest one in demand. The issue as it stands is that the "duality" of the current races is of so little relevance they might s well not exist as races but as cultures. For all the lore this game has, the racial depth and its exploration as a culture in the game's universe is shallow AF.
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    If you say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahrze View Post
    That's my point. I agree that SE wants the whole "kemonomimi" thing as a rule of thumb. But we -can- ask for more nuance to the races while also expecting a new one and Viera is the highest one in demand. The issue as it stands is that the "duality" of the current races is of so little relevance they might s well not exist as races but as cultures. For all the lore this game has, the racial depth and its exploration as a culture in the game's universe is shallow AF.
    I was agreeing with you! Sorry if it didn't come off that way. lol :X
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I was agreeing with you! Sorry if it didn't come off that way. lol :X
    On the contrary, I apologize for misreading the post. xD
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    If you say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahrze View Post
    Fair or simplified?
    I don't remember Viera having any real depth
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    I don't remember Viera having any real depth
    I don't see any race in XIV having any depth either, much of what is in lore (book and in-game anecdotes) is not fully explored/conveyed as a culture for each race, only exception is the Xaela, which is beside the point if we are being fair.

    But, focusing back on the topic. The concept art did show that they would fall in the range of highlanders/elezen, which would be pretty nice.


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    Last edited by Mahrze; 06-01-2018 at 01:54 AM.
    If you say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    I don't remember Viera having any real depth
    There are races currently in the game that have not been explored besides little text box blips. Looking at Duskwights, Hellsguard, Keepers...
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    I mean Viera are already pretty humanoid. If SE can't recreate the small differences that make them "Viera" and instead just make another base Hyur model and staple bunny ears to them...I wouldn't know what to say. That almost just sounds incompetent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    There are races currently in the game that have not been explored besides little text box blips. Looking at Duskwights, Hellsguard, Keepers...
    See Padjal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewAgeDoom View Post
    See Padjal.
    padjal are special and it makes a lot of sense they aren't a playable race.
    What he was referring to is that for most playable races only one side is explored in depth in game while the other just has a little text blurb in character creation

    I'd certainly like to see them as a more beastial race especially on the female side after au ra just got kpop stars with horns. Their basic build is very elezen like with some highlander features
    and it's been shows the feet do fit in boots, it appears the stiletto is just a preference and could easily be put in as a racial piece.

    with the fur pattern skin tones, tall ears, turned up tails, and bulky size, I think they would definitely stand out from the crowd

    and if they made them actually have two stand apart sub races like hyur with that vierafel variant as well they would really add a ton more variance

    would at least make the high likely-hood of new classes being one tank/healer and yet another dps more digestible
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