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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasuhiro View Post
    Please don't compare Burmecians to Kobolds, the picture he posted of Freya doesn't look like this at all.

    Did we play the same Final Fantasy IX?
    I didn't do it with bad intentions but as it happens SE has never unveiled Freya's face, not to me at least and well, they have tails and seem to be pretty ugly just like Kobold!...

    Now if "Burmecians" turned out to be a beautiful race then I would of course welcome and support them in FFXIV!...
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  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    I didn't do it with bad intentions but as it happens SE has never unveiled Freya's face, not to me at least and well, they have tails and seem to be pretty ugly just like Kobold!...

    Now if "Burmecians" turned out to be a beautiful race then I would of course welcome and support them in FFXIV!...
    The Steam version has a better render of her character model and avatar, she as a pretty decent face.
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaOZ View Post
    I didn't do it with bad intentions but as it happens SE has never unveiled Freya's face, not to me at least and well, they have tails and seem to be pretty ugly just like Kobold!...

    Now if "Burmecians" turned out to be a beautiful race then I would of course welcome and support them in FFXIV!...
    Old Freya Concept Art:



    One of the Dancers in the Tree (don't wanna spoil name):

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  4. #134
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    Is that dev art or fan art in the 2nd pic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Is that dev art or fan art in the 2nd pic?
    The first one is official, the second is fan art.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    If they managed to look like that in FF14, i'd swap just for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    If they managed to look like that in FF14, i'd swap just for that.
    It's not that different from the Original (one can't forget the designing tools available at the time):

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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    Kurogaea , some of your points are true, but the points about development time and such..it shows me you lack knowledge about how long it takes to make something, code, implementation etc, I feel it is pointless to continue to explain things.

    I wish we lived in a world where they can implement a lot of the things players are asking for, but truth is that work the devs do is underpaid and over worked..spend some time with some engineers and you'll see what I mean. I wish we could have both, it wouldn't bother me in the least to have Viera and customization but I would be pleasantly surprised if both happened. It's extremely involved. And the fact that you pointed out this is NOT Blizzard further proves my point. rofl Blizzard has 30 times the resources (not exact number, if you want that I'd have to ask my friend Jared) and they still can't do what you are asking..haha

    I don't care what company it is, there is no other "magical" ways to implement things. Yoshida already said that SE is very picky on who it hires to develop content and work on stuff..they aren't going to hire anyone willy nilly, and their employment page reflects that lol.
    Sigh, so your saying I lack knowledge of whats happening in SE? Well actually, your right. I don't know, and your saying you do because apparently every engineer is underpaid and overworked (yet in 2015 they went on an extended vacation after releasing Gold Saucer for about 5 months, Yoshi is hanging out with the creator of Yokai Watch giving us the most biggest run around event ever, spending his time working on other projects like Type-0's sequel and helping SAO Hollow Realization's creator with their game). I guess If I spend some time with those engineers I'd be surprised of all the free time they decide to spend on so many projects they would be working on. If I'm not mistaken, isn't some of Blizzards resigned developers working on Wildstar which has just about as many expansions as WoW, its population may not be that great but damn does it have alot of content for such a small group of Devs and resources, hmm...

    The fact that SE has staff within their own company is reason enough to believe FFXIV would be in good "resourceful" because when you have such a devoted guy like Yoshida who's not messing with other games, your sure to get alot of work done. In otherwords, if they have the resources, they're not using them, in which case, they're probably putting your customizations on hold for all I know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaine_Lionheart View Post
    Nothing has been made up on Iromi's behalf, you really need to consider watching or at least reading the Live letters, and as far as Compairing SE to Blizzard lemme break it down to you, and Im not putting anyone down But its actually common knowledge SE DOES NOT have even close to the amount of resources to Blizzard the ffxiv Dev team is 5-8 people TOPS and Blizzard has 30 - 50 so before putting anyone down you really need to learn what you are talking about first before you go attacking anyone
    They do have more resources, thats like 3700 employees for SE and 4700 for Blizzard. Personally, I find this useless, as one group could have more staffing on one game than the other, and the fact that one has made more hit games than the other as well, its pretty hard to tell what exactly is limited to them. And the ffxiv dev team btw, it was 12 people, as in 12 lead developers with their segmented teams of workers. How many do Blizzard have compared to Wow, I honestly don't know since each team dev team only shows leads more often than the entire teams. For example, we have about 5 lead programmers like Hideyuki Kasuga, and we have around 63 programmers in total. If you want to count, be my gues, but saying 6-12 people working on a game on their own is a lie.

    And as a side note, the only thing I'm attacking is the thought that we have to choose between two ideas or else we risk over working the dev team members? Love how stupid that sounds. Saying how complicated it is to code is an understatement for those who don't, so each time someone mentions "coding this is really difficult" literally signals they have no idea how hard it really is. No crap it is, but thats not what we're talking about, and it isn't even our business if they have coding down packed so its easy to program just about anything into the game, because none of us know. So once again, quit making stuff up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonditaru View Post
    You do realize, that the small details you mention is a lot of work? As similar as they are to Elezen, the differences are still a significant amount of work. It isn't just taking one character model then slapping stickers on their faces. Not to mention, Au'ra are the most customizable race we have so far. Putting that much into the detail of character creation takes a lot of work..

    The dev team is small. You have to realize that once a full expansion is released they start work on the next AS WELL AS work on the upcoming patches. It's constant work and the resources are limited. Adding a job or a race to a regular content patch will be a lot of work. Not to mention adding newer types of content. Best example there is changing from 3 dungeons to 2, because of the addition of diadem and potd.
    You do realize most of those customizations are the equivalent of extra tatoos for any other race, because thats what they basically are. Even the Male Aura single different customization is the eye rings which is 2 new customizations, which is like adding a circle around a belly button and calling it customization. I'd be sold if they allowed us to customize the horns or body figure but they didn't allow that now did they? They did the absolute minimum of what Au'Ra could have been and we already gave them shet for it.

    Speaking of Diadem (so tired of this coming up), we've started getting less than 3 dungeons before Diadem which was the start of Heavensward, Diadem wasn't tampered with till about 4 months later when they nerfed the rewards, and its been left alone ever since, until a year later when they add a new mode that changes nothing but newer gear and PoTD shows up and we've been getting 2 dungeons before that even came out......explain that why we didn't get more dungeons since then. -_-

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  9. #139
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    I only want them in if they're like the Viera from XII~

    Taller than Hume (Hyur)~

    Please don't make them Miqote or Au ra like...
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    I have said it once and I'll say it again I do want viera however I don't feel we need a new race every expansion I would rather this expansion be about graphical and charicter model updating as well as adding more race fetures like faces new ears and horn styles and tails also mabey the adition of new tribes
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