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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    I dunno... Lupin would really only need some head gear (mostly helmets and masks) to be redesigned, while it sounds like (in some interviews) Viera need every piece of foot gear redesigned for their feet.
    Not really just give them like a ankle chain and end off. If we wear earrings why not ankle thingys instead of shoes Lol
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    Redesigning feet gear for Viera isn't that difficult honestly. All they have to do is just give them really high heels.
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    I feel the connection thing is mostly just for references. Something like Krile and Xande, for instance.

    As for why I want Lupin to be playable... one big reason is that I'm tired of "cute" races (and I'm kinda worried Viera may suffer this). Another reason being I just want to see something that isn't yet another 90-95% human with some animal bits here and there (at least the Lupin have a wolf head and the one piece of official art for them is adorable). Lore and legends I don't particularly care for at this point in time, though I wouldn't be surprised if Kelger (FFV) is mentioned as a legendary warrior of sorts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    As for why I want Lupin to be playable... one big reason is that I'm tired of "cute" races (and I'm kinda worried Viera may suffer this). Another reason being I just want to see something that isn't yet another 90-95% human with some animal bits here and there (at least the Lupin have a wolf head and the one piece of official art for them is adorable).
    See, I have the same fear about the first one. I don't want 'cute' and I'm terrified that the chibi bunny option would be the ONLY option (I would be perfectly okay if they were two tribes with warriors as one option and cutsies as another but that is a TON of dev work). As for your second reason, sadly, I don't think we'll ever get a race that isn't 90% human. If the issue with Viera really is the feet we will never see anything remotely more drastic, especially not something with a muzzle or a semi-inhuman body shape.

    Also, there's actually a win hidden in the Viera for those who do want more bestial races. IF the devs DO make Viera feet high heeled...wouldn't that make the necessary skeleton rig to offer such an option to races in the future available? With all the shoes in game remodeled to fit Viera feet could we see the textures warped a bit to fit other types of bestial feet? If they do the work now, that's one less thing they have to do for another race later. I really do hope that the feet come into play for exactly this reason, just like I hope later on down the line we get even more varied racial options.

    Or at least a wee bit more customization for the races we do end up with.
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    The heck people, SE could just release a Lupin mask and people wanting to be one can just cosplay one, no need to make it a race. Unless a lot of furry loving people keep asking for one that doesn't have human features but I still see Viera more possible than Lupin atm... seriously, a mask. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leloa View Post
    The heck people, SE could just release a Lupin mask and people wanting to be one can just cosplay one, no need to make it a race. Unless a lot of furry loving people keep asking for one that doesn't have human features but I still see Viera more possible than Lupin atm... seriously, a mask. :P
    And body hair (or fur, I guess. Think about it, Lupin would be the only race to have body hair, something which I think every race should have the option of having) and a tail that isn't tied to the body-piece (seriously, why is the tail attached to the hideous body and not the pants that are literally called a werewolf tail).

    Anyway, Gold Saucer rabbit ears for faux-Viera.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridwyn View Post
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    I see the win, which is why with some of my arguments, I'm actually pushing toward the redesign of every foot gear for them and arguing against those who would rather have them with human feet, or have unique feet, but the gear is 'hidden' for whatever silly reason. I still don't want Viera, but if they're going to be a playable race, then SE needs to go all the way with them. Give them their unique feet and hands (they're kinda unique?). Don't just make them an usamimi and/or Miqo'te/Au Ra clone.
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    Funny no one mentions all the work needed for facial animations, emotes, character interactions, ect... for a race that as of now have none. Lupin, like all the less human races currently in game, have none of these. While many can argue that our player created characters are not incredibly expressive (I feel they do fine personally), the more nuanced animations are not only natural and useful in many quest we have interactions with npc's, but also help immerse the player in the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
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    I don't think beastmen like Lupin will be added as a playable race. I know I would never play as a beastmen. I'm completely uninterested in beastmen being a playable race, but I'm not particularly opposed to their addition later on in the future, either. I still don't think it'd happen, and I don't care either way. There's something I've been wondering though; how would hairstyles work for the Lupin? I think it'd look kind of silly. In any case, I'll be happy as long as they add viera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    I don't think beastmen like Lupin will be added as a playable race. I know I would never play as a beastmen. I'm completely uninterested in beastmen being a playable race, but I'm not particularly opposed to their addition later on in the future, either. I still don't think it'd happen, and I don't care either way. There's something I've been wondering though; how would hairstyles work for the Lupin? I think it'd look kind of silly. In any case, I'll be happy as long as they add viera.
    Unlikely to ever have playable beastmen due to laws of Ul'dah.
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