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[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

WE NEED VIERA. GIMMEGIMMEGIMMEGIMMEGIMMEGIMME! OR I WILL NUKE EORZEA ONCE MORE!I need my Viera retainer slave~

[Mature]

Viera is still by far the most request race in game regardless of people saying is not to make themselves feel better (which is only the odd 3 or 4 that no one listen to them)

I'm not holding my breath for Viera to be introduced soonish .. BUT but! Return to Ivalice would be the perfect way to introduce the race into the game. Specially having XII out right now.

The timings of FFXII and The new 24 man raid seems too fishy.

Are we gonna see familiar faces? Are we gonna see Viera like Fran?

Can honestly not wait for return to ivalice info.

[Nestama]

I'm not holding my breath for Viera to be introduced soonish .. BUT but! Return to Ivalice would be the perfect way to introduce the race into the game. Specially having XII out right now.

No, it can't and this isn't just me being anti-Viera. Think about it, how can someone who is just starting the game start as a Viera when the Ivalice raid technically doesn't "start" until after you beat the Stormblood storyline. The only way for Viera to be playable is if they already exist on Hydaelyn and to not make their sudden appearance to Eorzea jarring, SE would need to make them start in their own city/village/town (up until the Airship envoy quest maybe) and then have them go to Eorzea.

Of course, SE would need to change the story slightly as it would be annoying to have characters not show interest/curiosity about seeing a race not native to their land (it would also be nice if they did that for the Au Ra as well).

[Keridwyn]

Of course, SE would need to change the story slightly as it would be annoying to have characters not show interest/curiosity about seeing a race not native to their land (it would also be nice if they did that for the Au Ra as well).

See, that's the nail on the head. Nobody thought Au'Ra strange in the least (while it was very strange for me playing an Au'Ra to meet Yugiri for the first time and have her introduce you to the concept of their race). So why would Viera be any different? As long as their introduction to the story as a whole is smoothly done that is. I agree that if the Viera were not native to Hydaelyn prior to the events of Stormblood then some shenanigans would have to happen and nobody likes splitting the timeline, but is there any reason they cannot come from somewhere we haven't explored yet? We've only seen two of the continents, there are likely more out there and I would hope they come from one of them.

I do agree though, having a few more lines of written dialog about people thinking that the Au'Ra or any other race that comes in would be nice to see in the ARR content at least. But it's not quite the straw that breaks the camel's back unless the race themselves is introduced in a way that makes them impossible to help with the events of prior expansions.

[Mature]

Of course, SE would need to change the story slightly as it would be annoying to have characters not show interest/curiosity about seeing a race not native to their land (it would also be nice if they did that for the Au Ra as well).

Didn't they introduce Au Ra with yugiri? When no one knew the existence of Au Ra by then? I don't see the issue of introducing Viera in the same way of different that Au Ra was introduced.

That's why I mentioned that return to Ivalice would be the perfect timing to be introduced

[Keridwyn]

Didn't they introduce Au Ra with yugiri? When no one knew the existence of Au Ra by then? I don't see the issue of introducing Viera in the same way of different that Au Ra was introduced.

That's why I mentioned that return to Ivalice would be the perfect timing to be introduced

The only problem with Viera being introduced with Return to Ivalice is where it falls in the timeline. Yugiri introducing the Au'ra was less of an issue because it happened in ARR, even less of an issue because Doma was a confirmed place on the map. If Ivalice suddenly pops into reality because of the events of Stormblood and Viera were not native to Hydaelyn prior to that happening...that's an issue. Because that means either you'd either need to put the Viera behind the MSQ and not allow you you Fantasia into one until you've completed the quests, or you have to alter the timeline so that Ivalice appearing threw the Viera backwards in time.

[Paladinleeds]

Didn't they introduce Au Ra with yugiri? When no one knew the existence of Au Ra by then? I don't see the issue of introducing Viera in the same way of different that Au Ra was introduced.

That's why I mentioned that return to Ivalice would be the perfect timing to be introduced

Another problem is side-quests (of which Return to Ivalice will be counted as one) can't influence shenanigans of the main scenario too much. A slight nod happened to it surrounding the Coils in the Main Scenario, but I think that's the only way they could tap into side-quests. Else, after a point you'd have to make Return to Ivalice be required to continue with the story if the Viera are so deeply tied to it. This is why I'm worried. It's probably be easier for SE to introduce them as a beast tribe, canonically, but if they do that, then Viera can't be a playable race due to precedents already set lore-wise that beast tribes cannot be a Warrior of Light.

[Keridwyn]

It's probably be easier for SE to introduce them as a beast tribe, canonically, but if they do that, then Viera can't be a playable race due to precedents already set lore-wise that beast tribes cannot be a Warrior of Light.

Or they could come from a far off land we have yet to travel to that has been cut off by a Garlean blockade they are only now starting to run in any great numbers. There are ways to work them into the story with plenty of foreshadowing and wiggle room for what's to come. Also it is called Return to Ivalice...I guess if they really wanted to do the shenanigans I was talking about earlier this may not be the first time Hydaelyn and Ivalice have touched before. Honestly, even if they are a beast race I'd be okay. A lot of the reason I love Viera isn't so much the race themselves but the classes they could be in FFTA.

Elementalist for life.

[Nestama]

Didn't they introduce Au Ra with yugiri? When no one knew the existence of Au Ra by then? I don't see the issue of introducing Viera in the same way of different that Au Ra was introduced.

Yugiri came from Doma, which exists on Othard, which has always existed on Hydaelyn and as we all know (especially now), Au Ra are natives to that region (and Mide is her own ancestor). You can't compare Othard to Ivalice, unless Ivalice has always existed on Hydaelyn (and if that were the case, would you not prefer it to be an expansion zone and not a raid?) and if it does... then why have we not seen any Viera (or any other Ivalice race, for that matter) in Stormblood? Othard is home to Dalmasca/Rabanastre, is it not?

It would be better to introduce Viera as a race (named differently) that has always existed on Hydaelyn and have them be from a land that has little to no lore on it (The New World, to the west of Eorzea) AND as I said before, have them start in their own city/town/village so their Eorzea introduction feels natural and not... awkward (Au Ra).

[Felis]

Yugiri came from Doma, which exists on Othard, which has always existed on Hydaelyn and as we all know (especially now), Au Ra are natives to that region (and Mide is her own ancestor). You can't compare Othard to Ivalice, unless Ivalice has always existed on Hydaelyn (and if that were the case, would you not prefer it to be an expansion zone and not a raid?) and if it does... then why have we not seen any Viera (or any other Ivalice race, for that matter) in Stormblood? Othard is home to Dalmasca/Rabanastre, is it not?

Final Fantasy Tactics: Viere got extinct in Ivalice, only the Humes survived