Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 30
  1. #11
    Player
    Jetstream_Fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    747
    Character
    Syvic Zivota
    World
    Seraph
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    snip
    I'm well aware on how PotD was built and what it was intended for, however a challenge is not repeating something you know you have mastery of, going back to floor 51 is just an attempt on SE to ensure players have a decent pool of players to be matched with in order to progress. You're not growing in skill for going back to floor 51 with 99/99, running through bosses that are FATE level of difficulty, if you wiped on floor 170 from the boss because of it's mechanics redoing story based levels isn't helping you understand a boss fight on a set of optional floors. A player that has access to 101 would already know how items and traps work as they have seen it previously for 100 floors, so you're not learning here on how to manage items or traps, it's a development choice that honestly has no real benefit to redoing once one has proven capable of handling.
    (2)
    Last edited by Jetstream_Fox; 11-11-2016 at 06:53 AM.

  2. #12
    Player
    MomomiMomi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    2,527
    Character
    Momomi Momi
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    it's a development choice that honestly has no real benefit to redoing once one has proven capable of handling.
    It does have benefit, you just don't like it.
    (2)

  3. #13
    Player
    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Posts
    2,737
    Character
    Kakita Ucalibur
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Snip.
    Actually all the bosses in 110 through 190 save for 150 boss are all buffed versions of the floor-100 bosses and maintain all their major mechanics. If you are wiping on any of them due to mechanics rather than a dps check practicing on the weaker version would be a great way to improve.

    Floors 101+ are also tuned with the expectation that a group starting them already has a fair number of pomanders stored up.
    (1)

  4. #14
    Player
    Jetstream_Fox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    747
    Character
    Syvic Zivota
    World
    Seraph
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Actually all the bosses in 110 through 190 save for 150 boss are all buffed versions of the floor-100 bosses and maintain all their major mechanics. If you are wiping on any of them due to mechanics rather than a dps check practicing on the weaker version would be a great way to improve.

    Floors 101+ are also tuned with the expectation that a group starting them already has a fair number of pomanders stored up.
    I'm aware that they're the same, I was stating that if you encountered any mechanic within 101 that you didn't already deal with in 1-100 it doesn't make sense to practice the things you already know how to handle. It's better to practice what you don't know that way in the event you have to deal with them you can accordingly. For instance if you play a fighter practicing against a zone heavy character wouldn't help you prepare for a rush down character. Alternatively playing on hard doesn't prepare you for extreme, as things might react to situations differently within the new difficulty bracket.
    (0)
    Last edited by Jetstream_Fox; 11-11-2016 at 10:15 AM.

  5. #15
    Player
    whiteblade89's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    374
    Character
    Auron Vale
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    I'd be cool with a checkpoint at 101. It's hard to remain motivated knowing you have to trudge through 51-100 all over again.
    (9)

  6. #16
    Player
    Mature's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    1,784
    Character
    Mature Rudlum
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Dont get me wrong I'm not asking to start from scratch from 101 what I'm suggesting is you HAVE to start from 51 and make your way up to 200 but if u reach 101 a check point should happen until you clear the floor 200 with you fixed party.

    And again once you hit 99/99 blue chests become useless so the only thing left to do is to just run and get onto the cairn and move to the next floor. Floor 160+ take a bit of time to complete if u want the hoards specially reaching the zoo that is 170....

    A floor 101 check point would be ideal.
    (2)

  7. #17
    Player
    Fived's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    60
    Character
    Ja' Fived
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 62
    At first, I was all for the reset or checkpoint to floor 101 as well. But then I felt like it would become a complete farm run that would actually make the rewards commonplace. There is no "weekly lockout" or anything compared to raids. So, in theory, you would end up running 100-200 over and over again thus lowering the value of the rewards. I get it, it does suck having to redo the 50-100 floors over just to get to the "good stuff". However, without that in place, everyone would have the mount and minion. I do feel for people that wipe at floor 109 or something and have to go back to 51, but a lot of people wanted "tough 4 man" content that was similar to raids. So here is content that 4 people can run over and over with a challenege.
    (1)

  8. #18
    Player
    FoxyAreku's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    Limsa
    Posts
    2,889
    Character
    Areku Foxfire
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    I'm well aware on how PotD was built and what it was intended for, however a challenge is not repeating something you know you have mastery of, going back to floor 51 is just an attempt on SE to ensure players have a decent pool of players to be matched with in order to progress.
    You can't do 101+ in a matched party so this is not true.
    (2)

  9. #19
    Player
    NefarioCall's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    1,093
    Character
    Nefario Call
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 80
    I have yet to play 101+ even though i want to, due to the Fixed party rule.
    So really, my only hope of playing this content is to Solo it.

    I finally cleared 100 yesterday with my +99/99 WHM, but i did wipe on my first attempt at the boss and so could not continue to 101.
    I typically cleared each set with about 10 minutes left on the timer.

    SO this brings three thoughts to mind:

    #1 - How about being able to retry the current 10 floor set until you clear, no matter the KO count, but just not be able to continue?
    Perhaps this is already the case but i don't know because i have yet to reach 101. But basically, everything takes practice. Especially solo. Once we learn how fights work, in actual practice, not just watching a youtube, it gets easier for sure. I'd like to be able to practice and learn a certain boss 5 times if that's what is necessary to learn it, without having to trudge through 5-10 hours of grid just to attempt it again. Hey, if i die any number of times before i beat the boss, sure, don't let me proceed to the next set. But let me try it for practice now that i'm there until i'm satisfied before i restart the whole dungeon.

    #2 - Is the 60 minute timer really necessary for challenge or does it just get in the way?
    I'm a bit conflicted about this, because i understand how the need to manage ones progress against the clock is a part of the challenge, but is it really necessary? Can it be set to 90 minutes?

    #3 - I agree with OP.
    51-100 i've done countless times with party and will do so again. Because it's in a different category than 101+, it just ends up feeling like an oh, gotta spend a few hours on these floors before i get to the real thing again kind of thing.
    (0)

  10. #20
    Player
    Mariel_Crystallie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    136
    Character
    Mariel Crystallie
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 70
    Did u guys realize 101-150 bronze chest drop more Gelmorran Potsherd? .

    If the checkpoint on 101 , I really don't know what's going to happen with Materia V price on markets... @__@
    (3)
    Mariel Crystallie & Amariel Crystallie & Mariel Celestine

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3 LastLast