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    Quote Originally Posted by Inori-Yuzuriha View Post
    end game gear comes from raids.. so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    How do you "win" with gil in FFXIV? Gil won't make you a raider, gil won't lift the weekly tomestone cap, you can't buy the best gear with gil, at most you can access materia V slightly faster than other people and even then the DPS you gain from materia is very low, I forgot the actual number but it was something like less than 3%....

    The game is a lot more than about End Gear, for example:

    - Want a big FC/Personal house: Why not Sell Cash-Shop items and use money to buy the house directly. Very fair to the other FCs who were worked their butt off collecting gils trying to buy that nice house that you have earned doing nothing in game for it.

    - Got a new rare items/decos to be sold or bought on the marketboard? Why bothering with a normal price when you know Cash-Shop items sellers can afford for artificially overprice. Screw the regular gils earners..

    Etc..
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    Last edited by Chocolys; 11-10-2016 at 04:26 PM.

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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolys View Post
    It still does allow for a pay to win. You can just use real money to become easily rich in game, And that's why I'm against any form of RMT.
    How do you "win" with gil in FFXIV? Gil won't make you a raider, gil won't lift the weekly tomestone cap, you can't buy the best gear with gil, at most you can access materia V slightly faster than other people and even then the DPS you gain from materia is very low, I forgot the actual number but it was something like less than 3%.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laurima View Post
    Never heard of sell runs? sell runs with loot? no?

    -_-
    People can already buy runs without having sub tokens implemented in the game.
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    Last edited by alimdia; 11-10-2016 at 04:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    How do you "win" with gil in FFXIV? Gil won't make you a raider, gil won't lift the weekly tomestone cap, you can't buy the best gear with gil, at most you can access materia V slightly faster than other people and even then the DPS you gain from materia is very low, I forgot the actual number but it was something like less than 3%.



    People can already buy runs without having sub tokens implemented in the game.
    Yes they can

    but if you look at the prices needed for a full tier clear on say Midas Savage? with loot? even now, you would be looking at hundreds of millions in gil, few people outside of hardcore sell run groups and hardcore crafters has access to such funds, if SE offer reduced gil for purchase to the masses, more people will buy gil and things will go mad ><
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    Caitlin Seraphim
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    How do you "win" with gil in FFXIV? Gil won't make you a raider, gil won't lift the weekly tomestone cap, you can't buy the best gear with gil, .
    If you checked, some of the crafted 250 pieces are bis. So technically for some slots you CAN buy the best gear with gil. Ergo pay2win
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    Nat Silverguard
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    i would agree to this if SE will implement this just like how CCP did it in EvE with the PLEX system.
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    Lennard Cruce
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    Or why not just gift-able time tokens? We can pretty much already do that with time cards anyway but having it on the mog station can be pretty nice too.
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    Ruruneji Seseneji
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    This is a suggesting which i am all for. Those saying you shouldnt be able in any way to buy gil for real money seems to miss the point. SE cant seem to beat the bots by banning them, so why not try to beat their prices?

    Remember, the gil which bots put into the marker inflates it. If other players put them up, the gil used to purchase them would have already been in circulation.

    I agree that full player control of prices would be risky which is why i vouch for a semi regulated system a la WoW where the prices are continually generated based on supply and demand.

    When the botters realize they cant compete theyll go away. In my experience all bots disappeared when this system went live in WoW
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    I see your points.
    I'm all for it.
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    Lucky Tails
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    I'll ju$t $pend my money on game time for my friend. Becau$e people $uddenly went from hating the Ca$h $hop to making $ugge$tion$ on what to add next. What in the $ane hell i$ going on, guy$? $eriou$ly.
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    Oraina Fhey
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    I rather like how Blizzard handled theirs. Can only purchase something like 24 tokens every 2 years and it's a secure purchase and sale since it's through the auction house and their online store. It wouldn't hurt anyone other than the gil sellers and would also help people with making some gil. I have never had any luck with market boards/auction houses so I'm pretty poor on a constant basis.
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