[1206] Water spells

[Claire_Pendragon]

I'm in agreement with "Another DoM is going to obtain Water".
With BRD being DoW, and BST/SMN being the only announced DoM, I can very well see Water being reserved for another DoM class/job.

On a side note, I'm surprised they didn't give "Light" comboed elements to CNJ,. and "Dark" comboed elements to THM.
(For those that don't know, Dark and Light SCs in XI had 3 elements tied to them, and this carried over to THMs dark/light damage.)

[normalforce]

I'm in agreement with "Another DoM is going to obtain Water".
With BRD being DoW, and BST/SMN being the only announced DoM, I can very well see Water being reserved for another DoM class/job.

Not to mention, without Water the Elemental Wheel becomes unhinged.

[grandm]

I'm in agreement with "Another DoM is going to obtain Water".
With BRD being DoW, and BST/SMN being the only announced DoM, I can very well see Water being reserved for another DoM class/job.

using logic and math i disagree
6 elements divided by 2, is 3 each cure is water
6 elements divided by 3, is 2 each the new DoM would be missing a element if they only had water

of course i could be completely wrong, so although i disagree, that don't mean i can't see you being right

[Sehro]

fat lalafels took all the water.

[Volsung]

I really hope it was just accidentally left off.

What would we cast against mobs weak to water that arent undead :O

[DeadRiser]

Well the description of THM says they control 6 elements. Might just come later!

[viion]

A whole thread on this?

What about:
Umbral?
Astral?
Paralyze/Paralyna?
Slow?
Poison/Poisona?
Silena?
Guildskills?
Shockspikes?
Ancient Magic?
Dedicated Bind spell?
Spiritsong?
Raise/Resurrect? (current one says "may trigger prevention of Weakness and Brink of Death effects.")
Purge?
Shell?
Roaming Soul?

So many good spells just gone.


Also wtf is "Temporarily halves enmity and gradually restores MP." lol its no soughspeak! but i do like.

[DeadRiser]

A whole thread on this?

What about:
Umbral?
Astral?
Paralyze/Paralyna?
Slow?
Poison/Poisona?
Silena?
Guildskills?
Shockspikes?
Ancient Magic?
Dedicated Bind spell?
Spiritsong?
Raise/Resurrect? (current one says "may trigger prevention of Weakness and Brink of Death effects.")
Purge?
Shell?
Roaming Soul?

So many good spells just gone.


Also wtf is "Temporarily halves enmity and gradually restores MP." lol its no soughspeak! but i do like.

Some of these effects were moved into nukes and weapon skills. Some of these debuffs are only available through combos, further relying on teamwork and not zerging. I think it's a good think they got rid of so many of the spells we had, we just had WAY too many.

[Orophen]

I said so in another thread, but I'm thinking water nukes will probably come later. For THM if you think about it, if they're going the more traditional route with these jobs and classes, BLMs usually only got Fire, Thunder, and Blizzard. And sometimes they got Quake later. So they're on track with that. I feel like Conjurer is going to get a water based nuke later on since the elements they have seem like they are more on the nature-y side. I also feel like THM/BLMis going to obtain the other elements in some way shape or form. Since supposedly their destructive powers cover all six elements. It's just that these things are going to happen later rather than sooner. Which I don't see as a bad thing.

[Orophen]

So many good spells just gone.

Some of these effects were moved into nukes and weapon skills. Some of these debuffs are only available through combos, further relying on teamwork and not zerging. I think it's a good think they got rid of so many of the spells we had, we just had WAY too many.

Also, getting all of these spells before level 50 makes it hard for progression later on. You'll get your AM. It'll just be after level 50. More than likely another magic class will have enfeebles too. Because bunching every single spell that exists under 2 classes is pretty a crappy thing to do if you plan on having more than 2 magic classes.