[1206] Water spells

[Orophen]

As far as I'm aware there is no proof that we will get AM later, also we are not getting level cap increase at least until after 1.21 so that's way into next year.

Also You dont know when you get these skills, some of them could be level 50, you dont know.

Okayeee, you're right. I don't know. But I still don't get why you're asking where they are. That implies that you believe that we won't have them, or that we should have them now. And you don't know that we'll never have them. And you also have no grounds to believe that we need them before level 50 or any time soon. So you're basically in the same boat as me at the moment. And if you honestly believe AM won't appear later on, with no proof on your side either, then I'm more than willing to take that bet with you. Because you're going to lose.

[Zottan]

A whole thread on this?

What about:
Umbral?
Astral?
Paralyze/Paralyna?
Slow?
Poison/Poisona?
Silena?
Guildskills?
Shockspikes?
Ancient Magic?
Dedicated Bind spell?
Spiritsong?
Raise/Resurrect? (current one says "may trigger prevention of Weakness and Brink of Death effects.")
Purge?
Shell?
Roaming Soul?

So many good spells just gone.


Also wtf is "Temporarily halves enmity and gradually restores MP." lol its no soughspeak! but i do like.

Add Haste Gravity Escape Tractor and Meteor

Time Mage {Yes, Please}

[Bowen]

Add Haste Gravity Escape Tractor and Meteor

Time Mage {Yes, Please}

I never understood why everyone loved Time Mage so much. . . That is 'till I just got FF WotL for PSP last weekend X>X

[Orophen]

I said so in another thread, but I'm thinking water nukes will probably come later. For THM if you think about it, if they're going the more traditional route with these jobs and classes, BLMs usually only got Fire, Thunder, and Blizzard. And sometimes they got Quake later. So they're on track with that. I feel like Conjurer is going to get a water based nuke later on since the elements they have seem like they are more on the nature-y side. I also feel like THM/BLMis going to obtain the other elements in some way shape or form. Since supposedly their destructive powers cover all six elements. It's just that these things are going to happen later rather than sooner. Which I don't see as a bad thing.

[OriginalHungerforce]

using logic and math i disagree
6 elements divided by 2, is 3 each cure is water
6 elements divided by 3, is 2 each the new DoM would be missing a element if they only had water

of course i could be completely wrong, so although i disagree, that don't mean i can't see you being right

Using real life logic and math, why do the spells have to be distributed evenly? Because logic says so?

[grandm]

Using real life logic and math, why do the spells have to be distributed evenly? Because logic says so?

why not? seems like balance to me that way :P. but your right it doesn't have to be that way. but its as good a argument for the reason why thing are the way they are as any.

[ApplePie]

Combos are solo. You don't need a party to combo.

[Reinheart]

Final Fantasy 1 spells had Fire, Ice, Thunder only.
Final Fantasy 3 (JP) introduced Aero but that was for WHM
Final Fantasy 8 Water is finally introduced

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Water wasn't classic FF spell until FF10 so I dunno, don't think it's really needed... just my opinion.


I should add this also...

Final Fantasy 11 Stone was introduced for the first time

Edit2: Water came in FF8 but was useless back then.

Source: http://goo.gl/X0nfX (Japanese)

[Orophen]

Final Fantasy 1 spells had Fire, Ice, Thunder only.
Final Fantasy 3 (JP) introduced Aero but that was for WHM
Final Fantasy 10 Water is finally introduced

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Water wasn't classic FF spell until FF10 so I dunno, don't think it's really needed... just my opinion.

Well the real problem is that they would have to accomodate some things. If there was no water element, the elemental chart would be all out of whack. Not that you need Water to be a castable nuke by a BLM or WHM in order for the chart to remain valid.

Also they said THM/BLM control six elements. Either they left the remaining elements off the list, or the remaining elements will come later. Since there are 15 actions for THM on the list, I think it's safe to say the remaining elements will come later.